I asked AI to be the King's GM. Thoughts?

KingzLA

KingzLA

3rd Line Winger
Hey Gang,

I gave GPT some stats, contracts, and other sources to analyze and try to build a better team within our available salary cap. This is what it came up with—thoughts?

I know a lot of you go pretty deep into this stuff (I’m kind of lame at it), but it’s fun :)

I'm curious as to your thoughts.

1) The problem (what the Kings lack)​

  • No center spine after Kopitar (and Danault gone): no proven 1C/2C to drive offense and matchups.
  • Top-end scoring isn’t concentrated: good wingers, but not enough elite production through the middle.
  • Right-side finishing is thin beyond Laferriere.
  • Cap inefficiency in the middle and on D: too many “good” pieces (25–45 pt forwards, similar defensive D), not enough difference-makers.
  • Playoff translation gap: strong structure, but not enough high-end creation/finishing to win rounds.


2) Cap space (real, usable)​

  • Headline space: ~$20–23M after Kopitar’s $7M comes off.
  • After RFAs + roster fill (Laferriere, depth): ~$14–17M usable for impact adds.
  • Create more by moving salary (Moore/Kuzmenko + one D): +$10–13M.
  • True weaponized space after moves: ~$25–29M.

Directive: Don’t spread it across mid-tier players—buy a center first, then one finisher.



3) Proposed roster (with concise roles)​


Top 6​


Panarin – Byfield – Laferriere
  • Panarin: elite playmaker/engine; drives zone entries and PP.
  • Byfield: ascending 1C; size + pace; must take top minutes now.
  • Laferriere: emerging RW; forecheck + finishing support for top line.

Fiala – (New Center: Jenner/Coyle-type) – Kempe
  • Fiala: primary creator on line 2; chaos/shot generation.
  • New Center: 2C who can take hard minutes, stabilize draws, enable two scoring lines.
  • Kempe: best pure scorer; off-puck finishing and transition threat.

Bottom 6​


Moore/Kuzmenko (whichever remains) – Turcotte – Joseph/Armia
  • Moore/Kuzmenko: secondary scoring; move one to free cap, keep one for depth.
  • Turcotte: cheap, responsible 3C with upside; energy and structure.
  • Joseph/Armia: PK/forecheck; straight-line winger.

Malott – Laughton/Helenius – cheap RW (league-min/ELC)
  • Malott: physical depth; simple game.
  • Laughton/Helenius: Laughton = veteran 4C/PK; Helenius = development runway.
  • Cheap RW: replaceable forechecker; cap-efficient minutes.

Defense​


Doughty – Anderson
  • Doughty: veteran minutes/leadership; still anchors tough matchups.
  • Anderson: shutdown partner; reliability over flash.

Clarke – mobile partner (Kulak/Ferraro-type)
  • Clarke: PP QB; offensive driver from the back end.
  • Mobile partner: skates, cleans exits, covers for Clarke’s activation.

(One of Ceci/Dumoulin/Edmundson) – Moverare/cheap D
  • Veteran D: keep one for penalty kill/size; move the rest to clear cap.
  • Moverare/cheap D: low-cost depth; minutes-managed.

Goaltending​


Kuemper – Forsberg/Copley (bridge)
  • Kuemper: steady starter; not elite but serviceable.
  • Backup: cost-controlled support; protect games and workload.
  • (Pipeline): Carter George = future solution; don’t move.


Offseason plan (one line)​


Move middle money (Moore/Kuzmenko + one D), sign a real 2C (Jenner/Coyle-type), add one right-side finisher, keep the bottom six cheap.
 
Wow. We're right there!

AI lost me on the defense. The other issue is "moving" players like Ceci or Dumoulin, it's going to be pretty difficult to move those contracts.
 
Ice Rhino said:
Wow. We're right there!

AI lost me on the defense. The other issue is "moving" players like Ceci or Dumoulin, it's going to be pretty difficult to move those contracts.
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I don't think so. Both can have some of their salary retained. Both have value to playoff-aspiring teams, especially those post-rebuild looking for veteran leadership and playoff experience, of which both players have plenty. Teams like that will have more than enough cap space, too.

The Kings were a tough team to beat, even if it was a sweep.

One of Edmundson, Dumo and Ceci is a must-sell at the draft. Preferably two get moved, but the issue I see here could be Ken's ego preventing him admitting his own mistakes...

The return, of course, would likely be underwhelming, but IMO they're far from immovable.
 
lucky you
my free version of chat GPT still doesn't know half of trades like Hughes in Minnesota,or Perry in Tampa lol

That NHL.com page is a fictional/incorrect reference or misinformation, not an official transaction record. In real NHL records, there is no trade of Quinn Hughes to Minnesota.

Right now in actual NHL reality:
Quinn Hughes is still the captain and franchise defenseman of the Vancouver Canucks.

and it took him a while to remember that Panarin was traded to Kings
 
dneprovec said:
lucky you
my free version of chat GPT still doesn't know half of trades like Hughes in Minnesota,or Perry in Tampa lol

That NHL.com page is a fictional/incorrect reference or misinformation, not an official transaction record. In real NHL records, there is no trade of Quinn Hughes to Minnesota.

Right now in actual NHL reality:
Quinn Hughes is still the captain and franchise defenseman of the Vancouver Canucks.

and it took him a while to remember that Panarin was traded to Kings
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Yeah… I made sure to give it a reality check with these sites/links:

www.eliteprospects.com

Los Angeles Kings - Roster, News, Stats & more

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www.eliteprospects.com

Los Angeles Kings - Roster, News, Stats & more

Los Angeles Kings - NHL - hockey team page with roster, stats, transactions at eliteprospects.com
www.eliteprospects.com www.eliteprospects.com

www.dailyfaceoff.com

Los Angeles Kings Line Combinations

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Thoughts?

AI sucks, and so does every tech billionare mongrel going all-in on it, with the long-term plan of (potentially terminal) dehumanization of our civilization.
 
Bollocks said:
Thoughts?

AI sucks, and so does every tech billionare mongrel going all-in on it, with the long-term plan of (potentially terminal) dehumanization of our civilization.
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I use AI daily at work (and let's face it, we all do daily in society whether one realizes it or not) and can tell you it's pretty spectacular. That said, there are things it does a very very poor job of currently.

I really do not see it replacing or dehumanizing our society, but rather integrating into it. The big question is, will this make people less or more inquisitive and curious.

At any rate, humans are dehumanizing our civilization faster than any AI ever could.
 
DryKing said:
I use AI daily at work (and let's face it, we all do daily in society whether one realizes it or not) and can tell you it's pretty spectacular. That said, there are things it does a very very poor job of currently.

I really do not see it replacing or dehumanizing our society, but rather integrating into it. The big question is, will this make people less or more inquisitive and curious.

At any rate, humans are dehumanizing our civilization faster than any AI ever could.
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Not sure if serious or not.........


ICYMI, the information age (the interwebz) made society less smart.
Social media is the gathering of the stupid.

AI....it's like human kind speed running away from logic, truth and reason.

Humans don't "dehumanize" society on their own, they need a catalyst.
Enter social media and AI: premiere level catalyst.


...and also the current state of the Kings is a catalyst for dehumanizing the fanbase.
 
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Moog said:
AI....it's like human kind speed running away from logic, truth and reason.
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I think that’s half the story. There’s a fair amount of research showing that when you use AI on a topic you know very little about, you don’t learn much (if anything) because you’re essentially having it do all the work for you. And since you lack expertise on the subject, you can’t really audit the AI’s response for accuracy.

However, if you’re already fairly well versed in a topic, AI can multiply your efficiency and even expand your knowledge because you already have a well-established baseline to evaluate and build from.

For now, I think it's really important that people still "learn" things… And don't rely on AI unless they have a good foundation to build on. Then, AI can be very powerful. That's my opinion. YMMV.
 
DryKing said:
I use AI daily at work (and let's face it, we all do daily in society whether one realizes it or not) and can tell you it's pretty spectacular. That said, there are things it does a very very poor job of currently.

I really do not see it replacing or dehumanizing our society, but rather integrating into it. The big question is, will this make people less or more inquisitive and curious.

At any rate, humans are dehumanizing our civilization faster than any AI ever could.
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Of course humans are dehumanizing our civilization, humans created AI after all. AI (so far?) isn't capable enough to dehumanize us by itself.

AI is also far from the sole dehumanizing aspect of this all, but it's a pretty big one and a very new one (genocidal and unfair wars were on the menu since forever, we just failed to learn as a civilization to minimize them). We don't know what is the intention/ultimate goal behind absolutely megalomaniac investments into AI that in no sane world would make financial sense. The goal for that kind of money with no currently known scenario where the returns eventually cover the investment means it's very likely to be...very intrusive, forced onto people etc. There almost have to be serious ulterior motives to justify these investments.

Add to that how China is robotizing basically everything lately and you can suspect that a lot of people could become jobless within, what, 5 years?

Especially Americans should be worried as your manufacturing capabilities were exported so much so that it's incredbily difficult to engineer and manufacture effectively even the simplest of things. Apart from military, oil, agro, maybe partly certain raw materials and now AI, your country is heavily dependent on service jobs, many of which will get replaced by AI and robotics utilizing AI in one way or another...

It's no wonder the perpetual warfare and market manipulation is on the menu lately so much. It seems like those are the only chips left for your government to keep the illusion of the greatest country on Earth going, but in the meantime they and their buddies want to get as rich as possible, quick. It almost seems like they are in a hurry...

I don't want this to be interpreted as a broad critique of entire USA and especially not Americans as people, but it is a critique of USA leadership and business people tied to politicians (their funders) that completely disregard what made your country actually great back in the day, and the same/similar greedy business people basically helped China become an economically unbeatable, ruthless behemoth...AND to top it all off you can now buy all the cheaply made cr*p on Amazon with hilariously huge margins. But yes, it's cheaper than if it were made in USA 20-odd years ago. But now it can't even be made in USA anymore. Nobody knows how to anymore. That's also why tariffs on China exporting to USA is a laughable tactic to boost US economy. You can't boost something that isn't there anymore.


So, bottom line - what happens if a lot of people lose their jobs in a relatively short span in a country with notoriously bad social safety net? I don't think it will be pretty...

KingzLA said:
I think that’s half the story. There’s a fair amount of research showing that when you use AI on a topic you know very little about, you don’t learn much (if anything) because you’re essentially having it do all the work for you. And since you lack expertise on the subject, you can’t really audit the AI’s response for accuracy.

However, if you’re already fairly well versed in a topic, AI can multiply your efficiency and even expand your knowledge because you already have a well-established baseline to evaluate and build from.

For now, I think it's really important that people still "learn" things… And don't rely on AI unless they have a good foundation to build on. Then, AI can be very powerful. That's my opinion. YMMV.
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The issue with the "it's important that people still "learn" things" is that people are increasingly conditioned - now with AI more so than ever - to take the easy way out and avoid putting in additional work if at all possible. Relying on human conscience and ethics is futile.


EDIT: I'd like to add, to avoid sounding too condescending, that here in Europe we are far from "safe", too, and are similarly complicit in greedy behavior (from people prefering to buying junk en masse off of Temu to local sellers price gouging by selling basically the same items as Temu does, to companies buying cheap (and usually badly made with no support) machinery for industrial purposes which has all kinds of problematic implications), willy nilly standing pat while housing crisis is reaching apocalyptic levels at the hands of rich people and companies hoarding real estate, having big problems when it comes to picking our political battles with too hastily and willingly burning diplomatic bridges, to our industrial giants (Germany first and foremost) sleeping on their laurels and becoming very "elitistic" over time and forgetting what made them great in the first place, thus we're facing huge economic crisis...sure, POTUS will likely push us off the ledge, but we got there in the first place mostly by our own fault (lack of political spine/complicit of corruption or lobbying).

But alas, at least here in Europe we have a better tradition of having at least somewhat effective social safety net and we don't neglect the lower classes like USA does primarily in terms of healthcare and schooling...not sure it's going to help THAT much, it's likely only going to prolong the decay before collapse if our leaders don't change their approach.
 
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Bollocks said:
Of course humans are dehumanizing our civilization, humans created AI after all. AI (so far?) isn't capable enough to dehumanize us by itself.

AI is also far from the sole dehumanizing aspect of this all, but it's a pretty big one and a very new one (genocidal and unfair wars were on the menu since forever, we just failed to learn as a civilization to minimize them). We don't know what is the intention/ultimate goal behind absolutely megalomaniac investments into AI that in no sane world would make financial sense. The goal for that kind of money with no currently known scenario where the returns eventually cover the investment means it's very likely to be...very intrusive, forced onto people etc. There almost have to be serious ulterior motives to justify these investments.

Add to that how China is robotizing basically everything lately and you can suspect that a lot of people could become jobless within, what, 5 years?

Especially Americans should be worried as your manufacturing capabilities were exported so much so that it's incredbily difficult to engineer and manufacture effectively even the simplest of things. Apart from military, oil, agro, maybe partly certain raw materials and now AI, your country is heavily dependent on service jobs, many of which will get replaced by AI and robotics utilizing AI in one way or another...

It's no wonder the perpetual warfare and market manipulation is on the menu lately so much. It seems like those are the only chips left for your government to keep the illusion of the greatest country on Earth going, but in the meantime they and their buddies want to get as rich as possible, quick. It almost seems like they are in a hurry...

I don't want this to be interpreted as a broad critique of entire USA and especially not Americans as people, but it is a critique of USA leadership and business people tied to politicians (their funders) that completely disregard what made your country actually great back in the day, and the same/similar greedy business people basically helped China become an economically unbeatable, ruthless behemoth...AND to top it all off you can now buy all the cheaply made cr*p on Amazon with hilariously huge margins. But yes, it's cheaper than if it were made in USA 20-odd years ago. But now it can't even be made in USA anymore. Nobody knows how to anymore. That's also why tariffs on China exporting to USA is a laughable tactic to boost US economy. You can't boost something that isn't there anymore.


So, bottom line - what happens if a lot of people lose their jobs in a relatively short span in a country with notoriously bad social safety net? I don't think it will be pretty...



The issue with the "it's important that people still "learn" things" is that people are increasingly conditioned - now with AI more so than ever - to take the easy way out and avoid putting in additional work if at all possible. Relying on human conscience and ethics is futile.


EDIT: I'd like to add, to avoid sounding too condescending, that here in Europe we are far from "safe", too, and are similarly complicit in greedy behavior (from people prefering to buying junk en masse off of Temu to local sellers price gouging by selling basically the same items as Temu does, to companies buying cheap (and usually badly made with no support) machinery for industrial purposes which has all kinds of problematic implications), willy nilly standing pat while housing crisis is reaching apocalyptic levels at the hands of rich people and companies hoarding real estate, having big problems when it comes to picking our political battles with too hastily and willingly burning diplomatic bridges, to our industrial giants (Germany first and foremost) sleeping on their laurels and becoming very "elitistic" over time and forgetting what made them great in the first place, thus we're facing huge economic crisis...sure, POTUS will likely push us off the ledge, but we got there in the first place mostly by our own fault (lack of political spine/complicit of corruption or lobbying).

But alas, at least here in Europe we have a better tradition of having at least somewhat effective social safety net and we don't neglect the lower classes like USA does primarily in terms of healthcare and schooling...not sure it's going to help THAT much, it's likely only going to prolong the decay before collapse if our leaders don't change their approach.
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I agree that AI absolutely could displace large categories of white-collar and service work faster than society is prepared for. And yeah... the US is woefully lacking real societal safety nets.

But do you agree with the AI's assertion that the LA Kings have no center spine in their current lineup? 😀
 
KingzLA said:
I agree that AI absolutely could displace large categories of white-collar and service work faster than society is prepared for. And yeah... the US is woefully lacking real societal safety nets.

But do you agree with the AI's assertion that the LA Kings have no center spine in their current lineup? 😀
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Of course I agree, but a 5 year old watching the Kings play could also assert that, so... :dancee::D

PS: sorry for derailing the thread with serious and semi-political talk!
 
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