Kaliyev Free Agency Watch!!!!
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DarkLeftHand
Super Star
That’s essentially a synopsis of the situation based on her tik tok vids, also with direct links to all 32 parts of her posted story.
So now I wonder what kind of liability does the Kings franchise have in all this since they allegedly knew he had some sort of problem and used his debts as leverage for ice time and waivers?
More questions than answers for me, honestly. Something tells me this isn't over.
More questions than answers for me, honestly. Something tells me this isn't over.
T
TEAM LGK
Hope she takes the NHL offer for therapy
DryKing
Power Forward
Zero at this point - it's simply not believable nor has any evidence been provided to substantiate the claim.
The idea that a team would refuse to place a player on waivers until he pays off debts to players and others (not the Kings) and would continue to pay him during such a time as some sort of punishment is a bit hard to believe. It also sounded like she is alleging that that is something he told her, and she allegedly believed, rather than alleging that to be the actual truth regarding the Kings.
Dr. Strangelove
Original Bandwaggoner
Poor Arty, thot’s and 
That whole draft was pretty much a Kings failure. Ironically, the only "success" was Jordan Spence. In fairness most of everything past Arty was iffy, only a handful of guys that have made an impact. Just our luck a bunch of high picks in a crappy draft year.
Pickle_Pucks
Top Forward
Wow, she is a legit baddie.
I'm sorry AK, I wasn't familiar with your game.
I'm sorry AK, I wasn't familiar with your game.
hokiecat
Super Star
We've all been there. It will probably turn out fine for him. I feel like if you aren't 40-50k into a new girlfriend's bank account then you're just not putting effort into the relationship.
Statue4Deano
Super Star
Refer back to the most recent Yannetti interview for a 1st hand account of why the draft underperformed for the Kings. Also it’s been heavily implied that Blake was the deciding voice in selecting Turcotte over Zegras. Zegras for all his flaws has two 20 goal 60 point seasons.
DryKing
Power Forward
It's a silly argument at heart. Sure Zegras has two 20/60 seasons but all while playing next to zero defense, or even neutral zone, game and being given top line opportunities. To compare that with Tucotte who is pigeon holed in behind Kopi, Danault and Byfield is not apples to apples.
Reverse the draft with Zegras going to the Kings, and Turcotte going to the Ducks, and it's likely that Turcotte would have put up equal numbers while playing a complete game and would still be a critical piece of the Ducks roster this season (instead of being traded).
All this and we aren't even considering injuries in the equation.
Statue4Deano
Super Star
There’s no argument. Prior to the draft, Zegras was projected to be a better offensive player at the NHL level than Turcotte because he had more offensive skills, higher offensive IQ and showcased more creativity with the puck on his stick the vast majority of his peers. Those skills are why the Kings scouts reportedly had him ranked higher than Turcotte. They were correct in their assessment.
Zegras certainly benefited from the extra ice time afforded to him playing on a bad team but ice time alone doesn’t put points on the board. If the organization could develop Gabe Vilardi into a non-liability in his own end there’s no reason they couldn’t have done the same for Zegras.
Turcotte was a high floor, low ceiling pick. The Kings got exactly that regardless of his injuries. Seems pretty obvious Blake picked him in hopes of finding a Mike Richards-clone. Ironically, just like Mike Richards, Turcotte’s size and play style have led to significant missed time due to injuries. The injury to Corey Perry opens a door for Turcotte to get his last shot at being more than a guy fighting for a bottom six role.
DryKing
Power Forward
To be fair, Turcotte was the consensus higher pick pre-draft than Zegras, ranking as high as 3rd and averaging a ranking of 4th between the various experts. Zegras was ranked slightly lower. Turcotte was known for better 2-way play, higher hockey IQ, high competitive motor and doing all the right things. Zegras was known for offensive creativity, playmaking, strong zone entry and having a better shot between the two.
I agree with you in regards to hoping for another Richards with the pick (minus the drug problem), but this is not a scenario where Yannetti was right and Blake was wrong. Turcotte was not the safer pick, he was the better pick for a team with Stanley Cup Champion aspirations.
I'll be curious to see how Zegras does in Philly. If he can be successful there, then, in my opinion, he could have been successful on the Kings. If he flames out, however, then that is more evidence that he was not suited for the Kings organization and likely would be still scratching for a roster spot.
Alex Turcotte, C
Team: USA U18 (NTDP)Ranking: 3 | Nationality: USA
Age: 18 | Ht: 5-11 | Wt: 186 | Shot: L
Stats: 37 GP, 27 G, 35 A
Scouting report: He is a smart, two-way forward with an unrelenting motor and an ability to make plays in the offensive end of the ice. Turcotte is dogged in puck pursuit and remarkably strong, despite being average-sized. He is a fierce competitor but does not step over the line very often. He is not always flashy and doesn't always make the eye-popping play, but he makes the right plays. Turcotte goes hard to the net and into the corners, and he has the touch and plus-level vision to make plays under duress and find better options in tougher situations with the puck on his stick. He has deceptive feet, showcasing a good second gear that allows him to beat defenders wide or challenge them inside. -- Peters
Team fit: Turcotte follows the speed-based model the Kings have been going with lately. On top of being a skilled player with excellent vision and superior hockey sense, he's a competitive two-way guy. The Kings have been building a stable of fast centers with Rasmus Kupari and Akil Thomas, both selected last year. This prospect pool gets a nice boost with a player with a ton of versatility. -- Peters
Trevor Zegras, C
Team: USA U18 (NTDP)Ranking: 5 | Nationality: USA
Age: 18 | Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 173 | Shot: L
Stats: 60 GP, 26 G, 61 A
Scouting report: With elite vision and passing skills, Zegras is excellent in dictating play from the half wall or making plays on the rush. He can play at any speed and can back defenders down coming through the neutral zone. His ability to gain the zone is rivaled only by Hughes' in the draft class, as Zegras has creativity and a good sense of how to find the soft areas to give him the best chance to make plays. He has a quick release and can score goals but is viewed more as a pass-first player. The biggest area of improvement for Zegras is his physical strength. He also seems to force plays sometimes, but I think that became less of a problem as this past season progressed. -- Peters
Team fit: Zegras dropped further than I thought he would or should. He's an exceptional playmaker and will fit right into a prospect pool that already includes Isac Lundestrom, Max Comtois, Troy Terry, Sam Steel and Max Jones. For a rebuilding team, the Ducks have some nice building blocks up front. -- Peters
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Top prospects for the NHL Draft as ranked by the NHL Central Scouting Bureau.
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Birdman
TEAM LGK
They’re both too small.To be fair, Turcotte was the consensus higher pick pre-draft than Zegras, ranking as high as 3rd and averaging a ranking of 4th between the various experts. Zegras was ranked slightly lower. Turcotte was known for better 2-way play, higher hockey IQ, high competitive motor and doing all the right things. Zegras was known for offensive creativity, playmaking, strong zone entry and having a better shot between the two.
I agree with you in regards to hoping for another Richards with the pick (minus the drug problem), but this is not a scenario where Yannetti was right and Blake was wrong. Turcotte was not the safer pick, he was the better pick for a team with Stanley Cup Champion aspirations.
I'll be curious to see how Zegras does in Philly. If he can be successful there, then, in my opinion, he could have been successful on the Kings. If he flames out, however, then that is more evidence that he was not suited for the Kings organization and likely would be still scratching for a roster spot.
Alex Turcotte, C
Team: USA U18 (NTDP)
Ranking: 3 | Nationality: USA
Age: 18 | Ht: 5-11 | Wt: 186 | Shot: L
Stats: 37 GP, 27 G, 35 A
Scouting report: He is a smart, two-way forward with an unrelenting motor and an ability to make plays in the offensive end of the ice. Turcotte is dogged in puck pursuit and remarkably strong, despite being average-sized. He is a fierce competitor but does not step over the line very often. He is not always flashy and doesn't always make the eye-popping play, but he makes the right plays. Turcotte goes hard to the net and into the corners, and he has the touch and plus-level vision to make plays under duress and find better options in tougher situations with the puck on his stick. He has deceptive feet, showcasing a good second gear that allows him to beat defenders wide or challenge them inside. -- Peters
Team fit: Turcotte follows the speed-based model the Kings have been going with lately. On top of being a skilled player with excellent vision and superior hockey sense, he's a competitive two-way guy. The Kings have been building a stable of fast centers with Rasmus Kupari and Akil Thomas, both selected last year. This prospect pool gets a nice boost with a player with a ton of versatility. -- Peters
Trevor Zegras, C
Team: USA U18 (NTDP)
Ranking: 5 | Nationality: USA
Age: 18 | Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 173 | Shot: L
Stats: 60 GP, 26 G, 61 A
Scouting report: With elite vision and passing skills, Zegras is excellent in dictating play from the half wall or making plays on the rush. He can play at any speed and can back defenders down coming through the neutral zone. His ability to gain the zone is rivaled only by Hughes' in the draft class, as Zegras has creativity and a good sense of how to find the soft areas to give him the best chance to make plays. He has a quick release and can score goals but is viewed more as a pass-first player. The biggest area of improvement for Zegras is his physical strength. He also seems to force plays sometimes, but I think that became less of a problem as this past season progressed. -- Peters
Team fit: Zegras dropped further than I thought he would or should. He's an exceptional playmaker and will fit right into a prospect pool that already includes Isac Lundestrom, Max Comtois, Troy Terry, Sam Steel and Max Jones. For a rebuilding team, the Ducks have some nice building blocks up front. -- Peters
NHL Draft Prospects Rankings | NHL.com
Top prospects for the NHL Draft as ranked by the NHL Central Scouting Bureau.
You guys realize that there is a method to my madness about size, right?
symbology
TEAM LGK
Kaliyev had size.
