Kings trading Quick and a first plus to Columbus?0

  • Thread starter Thread starter Butsy
  • Start date Start date
GuyInARoom said:
Agree with this 100%. I don't understand these fans who keep saying "Kings don't have a chance at the cup this year, so why make a trade like this" - I'm sorry but if you're in the playoffs you have a chance. Kings fans should have learned this lesson permanently after the 8-seed performance in 2012. With the West in its current state, the Kings have a completely reasonable path, possibly even with home ice advantage, all the way to a Stanley Cup Final appearance. If the Kings make the WCF, we'll have traded away the 29th (or lower) pick of the 2023 draft. Who's losing sleep over this?

I love Jonathan Quick and what he's done for this franchise, but he had every opportunity to improve his play this season and he just hasn't been able to do it. Blake's job is to ice the best team possible, short and long term, and he's doing just that.
Click to expand...

I see little to no comparison between this team and the 2012 team. I remember it very well in 2012 - especially after they got Carter, you could just FEEL IT that they were building momentum as they become more accustomed to Sutter as their new coach and as Carter settled in. This team - not so much. Yes they are currently tied for first (albeit with two more games played), but they are also only 4 points ahead of the second wild card team and can just as easily get shellacked 5-0 by Toronto as pulling off the game they played last night. I'd love to be wrong, but I still feel like this type of trade was at least one year too early.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
JayWells24 said:
I further wonder if Merzlikins was the one they really wanted? He had a nice run a few years back when Columbus upset Tampa in the 1st round.

But yes, likely the new #1 . I would have liked to seen Petersen moved instead of Quick. JQ deserves to retire a King.
Click to expand...

Nope, he didn't. That run was almost entirely on Korpisalo. And Korpisalo also has higher mileage, though quite inconsistent season-to-season...

hokiecat said:
It sure feels like that for me. I remember when the Kings got Lucic (with salary retained). One of the guys available to us in the teens was Kyle Connor. A big fast forward who could score goals. Dean got us the 1-year rental instead of the guy who scores 30-45 goals a season regularly.

If I'm giving up a 1st and a 3rd, I'd much rather have gotten McCabe from Chicago with 50% salary retained. That would be filling a need on LD for 2.25 years rather than 0.25 years.

Also, with Toronto and Boston already loading up, who was Blake bidding against for a LD? I'm just floored that we traded useful draft picks for rental players. That is not what elite GMs do.
Click to expand...

It's not just Gavrikov and it's also a cap dump+roster space creation.

Gavrikov alone wouldn't cost a 1st at all.

It's a big issue if a team heading towards playoffs must carry 3 goalies, Ontario in the meantime has only one, and all the backup goalies are totally suspect...
 
santiclaws said:
How freaking weird would it be to see Quick at Stapto in a Vegas jersey?
Click to expand...

I just this second texted a good buddy of mine in Las Vegas that he may see Quick on his team soon! True irony for sure.

Then I saw your post! Ha!
 
MBX5 said:
I see little to no comparison between this team and the 2012 team. I remember it very well in 2012 - especially after they got Carter, you could just FEEL IT that they were building momentum as they become more accustomed to Sutter as their new coach and as Carter settled in. This team - not so much. Yes they are currently tied for first (albeit with two more games played), but they are also only 4 points ahead of the second wild card team and can just as easily get shellacked 5-0 by Toronto as pulling off the game they played last night. I'd love to be wrong, but I still feel like this type of trade was at least one year too early.
Click to expand...

It remains to be seen what happens.

Watching the game last night, I figured that Blake needed to do something. Either start selling some pieces and get a goalie/defensmen in the off season, or buy. He had to do one or the other. Standing pat was not going to get it done and it was going to be a waste of assets.

Again, lets see what happens. Maybe Blake ends up being able to sign both players to decent deals. Maybe both players suck and the team tanks and it the LGK community goes insane.

At this point, ride it out people.
 
Last edited:
Jakob Chychrun to the Sens.

Trade alert! The #Sens have acquired defenceman Jakob Chychrun from @ArizonaCoyotes
in exchange for a conditional first-round draft pick in ’23, a conditional second-round selection in ’24 (previously acquired from @Capitals
) and a second-round pick in ’26. 1/2
 
not gonna lie, vegas or not, this sits a little better with me. If he's gonna be traded, at least he has a legit chance to get one more ring.
 
Bollocks said:
It's not just Gavrikov and it's also a cap dump+roster space creation.

Gavrikov alone wouldn't cost a 1st at all.

It's a big issue if a team heading towards playoffs must carry 3 goalies, Ontario in the meantime has only one, and all the backup goalies are totally suspect...
Click to expand...

But what good is the cup dump+roster space? Are we planning on using Quick's money to bring in another piece? Unless Blake is calling teams Friday at 11 AM and saying "you can trade [JVR/whoever] to me for a 3rd/4th or lose him for nothing in 6 weeks. Do you want to make a deal?", then i don't know what the cap space gets us.

I like getting another goalie to help down the strech but Joonas is wildly inconsistent. He's been good this year. Last season, he had the 2nd worst GSAA above only Grubauer. The year before that he was 4th worst in the NHL. He's far from a sure thing.

I think a Chychrun deal would have been far more effective in the long term.
 
Wow, Vegas? Really? Thought that was just rumor. Happy he will have another shot at the Cup there.
 
hokiecat said:
But what good is the cup dump+roster space? Are we planning on using Quick's money to bring in another piece? Unless Blake is calling teams Friday at 11 AM and saying "you can trade [JVR/whoever] to me for a 3rd/4th or lose him for nothing in 6 weeks. Do you want to make a deal?", then i don't know what the cap space gets us.

I like getting another goalie to help down the strech but Joonas is wildly inconsistent. He's been good this year. Last season, he had the 2nd worst GSAA above only Grubauer. The year before that he was 4th worst in the NHL. He's far from a sure thing.

I think a Chychrun deal would have been far more effective in the long term.
Click to expand...

All the more reason to be frustrated with this trade. Blake just had to wait it out longer and he likely could have landed Chychrun. So we wouldn’t have Korpisalo and would still have Quick. Oh well. As you said, it’s about building long-term.
 
hokiecat said:
But what good is the cup dump+roster space? Are we planning on using Quick's money to bring in another piece? Unless Blake is calling teams Friday at 11 AM and saying "you can trade [JVR/whoever] to me for a 3rd/4th or lose him for nothing in 6 weeks. Do you want to make a deal?", then i don't know what the cap space gets us.

I like getting another goalie to help down the strech but Joonas is wildly inconsistent. He's been good this year. Last season, he had the 2nd worst GSAA above only Grubauer. The year before that he was 4th worst in the NHL. He's far from a sure thing.

I think a Chychrun deal would have been far more effective in the long term.
Click to expand...

I agree with this. Hope to be proven wrong.
 
hokiecat said:
But what good is the cup dump+roster space? Are we planning on using Quick's money to bring in another piece? Unless Blake is calling teams Friday at 11 AM and saying "you can trade [JVR/whoever] to me for a 3rd/4th or lose him for nothing in 6 weeks. Do you want to make a deal?", then i don't know what the cap space gets us.

I like getting another goalie to help down the strech but Joonas is wildly inconsistent. He's been good this year. Last season, he had the 2nd worst GSAA above only Grubauer. The year before that he was 4th worst in the NHL. He's far from a sure thing.


I think a Chychrun deal would have been far more effective in the long term.
Click to expand...

Joonas had injury/hip issues last year, and word is that was the reason for the bad performance. Hope that is the case.
 
hokiecat said:
But what good is the cup dump+roster space? Are we planning on using Quick's money to bring in another piece? Unless Blake is calling teams Friday at 11 AM and saying "you can trade [JVR/whoever] to me for a 3rd/4th or lose him for nothing in 6 weeks. Do you want to make a deal?", then i don't know what the cap space gets us.

I like getting another goalie to help down the strech but Joonas is wildly inconsistent. He's been good this year. Last season, he had the 2nd worst GSAA above only Grubauer. The year before that he was 4th worst in the NHL. He's far from a sure thing.

I think a Chychrun deal would have been far more effective in the long term.
Click to expand...

Yeah, but maybe a deal for Chchrun could not be made. Maybe the Kings were not high on any of the yotes goalies. This trade was about the goalie situation as much as it was about the D. Next week if Copley was to go down with an injury, or loose his game. Well, the Kings would probably miss the playoffs. There would be prayers that Cal got his game back when he was called back up.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Now Chirping

  • No one is chatting at the moment.

Share this page

Back
Top