***LA Kings @ Columbus Blue Jackets GDT 1/25/25 4:00pm on FanDuel***

AngelEyes said:
Unfortunately, Kempe is in a position of having to carry the team at times, especially in OT.
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That is true, however my point is more one of strategy. If you aren't wide open don't shoot it. Take it back over the blue line if you have to and change players if your guys are getting tired. I do know that holding on to the puck seems to be much harder that one would think with that much open ice.
 
Surf Nutz said:
Yup it was Danault.

Nice to see QB is counseling you for that.
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You’d be wrong there. I know you’re the one that was mentioning the east/West versus North/South quandary in the other thread. And this is exactly the problem. Kevin was trying to make a play East/west, rather than just inching that puck across the blue line.
 
DarkLeftHand said:
You’d be wrong there. I know you’re the one that was mentioning the east/West versus North/South quandary in the other thread. And this is exactly the problem. Kevin was trying to make a play East/west, rather than just inching that puck across the blue line.
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Danault was too eager, he knows who Fiala is.

But you and I have much different views.
 
Halfwall said:
That is true, however my point is more one of strategy. If you aren't wide open don't shoot it. Take it back over the blue line if you have to and change players if your guys are getting tired. I do know that holding on to the puck seems to be much harder that one would think with that much open ice.
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I agree with you. There are many top tier teams that do exactly that. But I think that the Kings are a team that don't seem to strategize very well in certain situations. OT and PP are particularly deficient.
 
I hate to say we deserved to win because I just recently said there was no such thing as deserve. But we deserved to win this game. We carried the play for the most part & had more shots & scoring chances. We just can't bury our chances. Especially that sequence before the BJ's scored their 2nd goal, we had real good chances. In the OT, first of all that penalty shot shouldn't have been called. But if it means Kuemper makes the save, I'll take that. But on the goal, I wish Fiala would've found a way off the ice if he was hurt. I guess he couldn't though. But it's not like he's the strongest defender anyway. Anyway, I'm not happy about the loss but I'm glad for the loser point.

On to that disallowed goal. I ranted about it the last time it happened & I believe it more strongly than ever. Disallowing a goal because of offsides is bullcrap. Especially in this case where it took 1:20 after the goal was scored to challenge. Even to the point where they were about to drop the puck. They shouldn't be able to do that. You should get 30, maybe 45 seconds to challenge a goal for offsides. They've got video coordinators who can see while the play is going on if it's offsides. If a goal gets scored they should be able to say right away that it was offsides. And if it takes 80 seconds of slowing down each frame by millimeters to see if someone's offsides, then maybe it shouldn't be called back. And again, if you're using the standard of the human eye when you enter the zone, why then switch to the standard of a machine when the goal gets scored? Especially when you have to slow down frame by frame on several replays to see the offsides. And for anyone who argues they have to get it right, actually they don't. There are many instances in a game where they get a call wrong or don't make a call they should. And we don't go back & review all those. But for some reason this one we do. Also, calling a goal back for offsides means they didn't get it right. Otherwise it would've been blown dead when they entered the zone. You just wasted in this case 20 seconds of playing time & a nice goal. And you disappoint half the people watching. It's stupid & they need to fix this rule.

Sorry for the long rant but I'm still pissed about it.
 
Dr. Tran said:
I hate to say we deserved to win because I just recently said there was no such thing as deserve. But we deserved to win this game. We carried the play for the most part & had more shots & scoring chances. We just can't bury our chances. Especially that sequence before the BJ's scored their 2nd goal, we had real good chances. In the OT, first of all that penalty shot shouldn't have been called. But if it means Kuemper makes the save, I'll take that. But on the goal, I wish Fiala would've found a way off the ice if he was hurt. I guess he couldn't though. But it's not like he's the strongest defender anyway. Anyway, I'm not happy about the loss but I'm glad for the loser point.

On to that disallowed goal. I ranted about it the last time it happened & I believe it more strongly than ever. Disallowing a goal because of offsides is bullcrap. Especially in this case where it took 1:20 after the goal was scored to challenge. Even to the point where they were about to drop the puck. They shouldn't be able to do that. You should get 30, maybe 45 seconds to challenge a goal for offsides. They've got video coordinators who can see while the play is going on if it's offsides. If a goal gets scored they should be able to say right away that it was offsides. And if it takes 80 seconds of slowing down each frame by millimeters to see if someone's offsides, then maybe it shouldn't be called back. And again, if you're using the standard of the human eye when you enter the zone, why then switch to the standard of a machine when the goal gets scored? Especially when you have to slow down frame by frame on several replays to see the offsides. And for anyone who argues they have to get it right, actually they don't. There are many instances in a game where they get a call wrong or don't make a call they should. And we don't go back & review all those. But for some reason this one we do. Also, calling a goal back for offsides means they didn't get it right. Otherwise it would've been blown dead when they entered the zone. You just wasted in this case 20 seconds of playing time & a nice goal. And you disappoint half the people watching. It's stupid & they need to fix this rule.

Sorry for the long rant but I'm still pissed about it.
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It's easy for everyone to blame Fiala for the OT goal but had Kuemper not gone for the poke check he probably makes the save 8 or 9 times out of 10. That is also why I wasn't upset about the penalty shot even though the call was ridiculous. I am OK with offside reviews but the refs let Columbus get away with waiting too long.
 
I watched the game but must have missed the offsides callback somehow lol... but I feel if it's over 30 seconds or 100% if the other team touches the puck video/challenges shouldn't be used if the linesman called it fair.
 
I’ll take a point against Columbus on the road. They are a solid team playoff team. With that being said, the loss of the second point could be a playoff berth.
 
I was very impressed with the 3 minute 6 on 4 by the Kings. I don't know if Columbus was just unlucky, however, the Kings were in the right spots when they needed to be.
 
Was at the game in Columbus. Tough loss for the Kings, just couldn’t convert many of our scoring chances. That overturned goal was very unfortunate.
 
Dr. Tran said:
On to that disallowed goal. I ranted about it the last time it happened & I believe it more strongly than ever. Disallowing a goal because of offsides is bullcrap. Especially in this case where it took 1:20 after the goal was scored to challenge. Even to the point where they were about to drop the puck. They shouldn't be able to do that. You should get 30, maybe 45 seconds to challenge a goal for offsides. They've got video coordinators who can see while the play is going on if it's offsides. If a goal gets scored they should be able to say right away that it was offsides. And if it takes 80 seconds of slowing down each frame by millimeters to see if someone's offsides, then maybe it shouldn't be called back. And again, if you're using the standard of the human eye when you enter the zone, why then switch to the standard of a machine when the goal gets scored? Especially when you have to slow down frame by frame on several replays to see the offsides. And for anyone who argues they have to get it right, actually they don't. There are many instances in a game where they get a call wrong or don't make a call they should. And we don't go back & review all those. But for some reason this one we do. Also, calling a goal back for offsides means they didn't get it right. Otherwise it would've been blown dead when they entered the zone. You just wasted in this case 20 seconds of playing time & a nice goal. And you disappoint half the people watching. It's stupid & they need to fix this rule.
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Yeah it's one of the stupider parts of the game, right up there with 3 on 3 overtime. The NHL either needs to fix offsides by either adding a system like VAR or removing the coaches challenge option (perhaps with the exception of the playoffs).

3 on 3 overtime really needs to go too. It's simply not hockey and has no place in it. It's like watching peewee hockey. Play a regular 5 on 5 overtime and then go to shootout if the NHL wants to continue to eliminate the tie.

Hopefully once Bettman retires we can fix some of these broken elements.
 
Congratulations to the following posters who guessed 4 points for the d (one was added overnight):

Hockey53
AngelEyes
Drum4Pigs
Cross Traffic
Byron
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Clif
kingsmen93
KernCoKingFan
Chateau Bow Wow
Surf Nutz
rinkrat
TooCool

Way to battle for a point, they deserved more but sometimes thems the shakes. On to Detroit.
 
Dr. Tran said:
I hate to say we deserved to win because I just recently said there was no such thing as deserve. But we deserved to win this game. We carried the play for the most part & had more shots & scoring chances. We just can't bury our chances. Especially that sequence before the BJ's scored their 2nd goal, we had real good chances. In the OT, first of all that penalty shot shouldn't have been called. But if it means Kuemper makes the save, I'll take that. But on the goal, I wish Fiala would've found a way off the ice if he was hurt. I guess he couldn't though. But it's not like he's the strongest defender anyway. Anyway, I'm not happy about the loss but I'm glad for the loser point.

On to that disallowed goal. I ranted about it the last time it happened & I believe it more strongly than ever. Disallowing a goal because of offsides is bullcrap. Especially in this case where it took 1:20 after the goal was scored to challenge. Even to the point where they were about to drop the puck. They shouldn't be able to do that. You should get 30, maybe 45 seconds to challenge a goal for offsides. They've got video coordinators who can see while the play is going on if it's offsides. If a goal gets scored they should be able to say right away that it was offsides. And if it takes 80 seconds of slowing down each frame by millimeters to see if someone's offsides, then maybe it shouldn't be called back. And again, if you're using the standard of the human eye when you enter the zone, why then switch to the standard of a machine when the goal gets scored? Especially when you have to slow down frame by frame on several replays to see the offsides. And for anyone who argues they have to get it right, actually they don't. There are many instances in a game where they get a call wrong or don't make a call they should. And we don't go back & review all those. But for some reason this one we do. Also, calling a goal back for offsides means they didn't get it right. Otherwise it would've been blown dead when they entered the zone. You just wasted in this case 20 seconds of playing time & a nice goal. And you disappoint half the people watching. It's stupid & they need to fix this rule.

Sorry for the long rant but I'm still pissed about it.
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Last night shows they need a clock with like one minute after the goal is decided to dispute the goals.
But I don't want off sides goals allowed.
Just a prompt decision to whether or not its offsides.
Which is already the rule as Jim Faux pointed out, but the refs can't seem to keep it out of a grey area.
 
Dr. Tran said:
I hate to say we deserved to win because I just recently said there was no such thing as deserve. But we deserved to win this game. We carried the play for the most part & had more shots & scoring chances. We just can't bury our chances. Especially that sequence before the BJ's scored their 2nd goal, we had real good chances. In the OT, first of all that penalty shot shouldn't have been called. But if it means Kuemper makes the save, I'll take that. But on the goal, I wish Fiala would've found a way off the ice if he was hurt. I guess he couldn't though. But it's not like he's the strongest defender anyway. Anyway, I'm not happy about the loss but I'm glad for the loser point.

On to that disallowed goal. I ranted about it the last time it happened & I believe it more strongly than ever. Disallowing a goal because of offsides is bullcrap. Especially in this case where it took 1:20 after the goal was scored to challenge. Even to the point where they were about to drop the puck. They shouldn't be able to do that. You should get 30, maybe 45 seconds to challenge a goal for offsides. They've got video coordinators who can see while the play is going on if it's offsides. If a goal gets scored they should be able to say right away that it was offsides. And if it takes 80 seconds of slowing down each frame by millimeters to see if someone's offsides, then maybe it shouldn't be called back. And again, if you're using the standard of the human eye when you enter the zone, why then switch to the standard of a machine when the goal gets scored? Especially when you have to slow down frame by frame on several replays to see the offsides. And for anyone who argues they have to get it right, actually they don't. There are many instances in a game where they get a call wrong or don't make a call they should. And we don't go back & review all those. But for some reason this one we do. Also, calling a goal back for offsides means they didn't get it right. Otherwise it would've been blown dead when they entered the zone. You just wasted in this case 20 seconds of playing time & a nice goal. And you disappoint half the people watching. It's stupid & they need to fix this rule.

Sorry for the long rant but I'm still pissed about it.
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I agree 100%. Pure unadulterated BS.

Dr. Evil, aka, Bettman & Company, need to take a long hard look at this rule. At the very least it needs some major tweaking. This one took WAAAAAY too long.

And right or wrong, this is just not in the spirit of REAL ice hockey. Leave that BS to the NFL, where they just seem to make up rules as they go along, and have video review of the water boy giving the players to much hydration.

When you need a multiphoton laser microscope to determine if a player was offsides half an hour ago...something is very wrong.
 
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