Olympics 2026- lets go!

Birdman said:
Foolish, maybe. Brave? Absolutely.
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Don't mistake foolishness, naivety or perhaps even narcissistic personality disorder with bravery.

She was brave to return to competitive skiing and achieving success. Bravery ended the moment the decision to compete at Olympics was made.

Let's not try to make her into an example that should be followed, allright?
 
Bollocks said:
Don't mistake foolishness, naivety or perhaps even narcissistic personality disorder with bravery.

She was brave to return to competitive skiing and achieving success. Bravery ended the moment the decision to compete at Olympics was made.

Let's not try to make her into an example that should be followed, allright?
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You do you. I’ll do me.
 
My fiance tore her ACL completely a couple ski seasons back. It’s fine now after surgery but her surgeon told her she couldn’t injure it anymore prior to operation. It was completely torn. There was nothing to else to do to it. Another surgeon told her there are football players who play without ACLs.

The ACL provides stabilization when you pivot. You cannot ski moguls or off piste without it, but speed skiing is a different. There was an Austrian skiier in Men’s who was announced as not having an ACL since 2018.

Vonn came in third in the training session the day before.

Yes, an ACL is preferable, obviously. But anyone shaming Vonn for competing doesn’t know what they’re talking about. You can always get hurt in her sport. She wasn’t even the only skier to get airlifted that session.

Talk is cheap on the internet. Actual sports is not.
 
Clif said:
My fiance tore her ACL completely a couple ski seasons back. It’s fine now after surgery but her surgeon told her she couldn’t injure it anymore prior to operation. It was completely torn. There was nothing to else to do to it. Another surgeon told her there are football players who play without ACLs.

The ACL provides stabilization when you pivot. You cannot ski moguls or off piste without it, but speed skiing is a different. There was an Austrian skiier in Men’s who was announced as not having an ACL since 2018.

Vonn came in third in the training session the day before.

Yes, an ACL is preferable, obviously. But anyone shaming Vonn for competing doesn’t know what they’re talking about. You can always get hurt in her sport. She wasn’t even the only skier to get airlifted that session.

Talk is cheap on the internet. Actual sports is not.
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speed skiing is a different

Speed skiing is similar risk, there are countless situations where not having the same knee anatomy from 1 week before bears risk of fall due to knee feeling different. Wearing a stiff knee brace makes you ski different. In the end the knee brace protected her knee at the cost of her bone.

There's a big difference between being slowly accustomed to the fact your knee is "different" and having specific training regimens to strengthen the muscles specifically to stabilize your knee, getting used to a knee brace etc.

Training sessions are a completely different beast compared to actual Olympic competition.

The fact she fell on turn 3 means that her head wasn't in the right place and/or because the leg responds differently if your knee is stabilized by a "foreign object".


Knowing when to say "enough" and admit defeat is braver than ramming your head through the wall to the detriment of yourself, your fans and other competitors. But I guess that's the kind of world we live in...
 
Bollocks said:
And @What party?

One thing is competitive skiing, completely another is risking your leg in a most likely futile attempt at the last hoorah at downhill skiing. Speeds of up to 150kph (90mph), huge jumps, immense forces on your legs...incredibly high stakes and incredibly high chances of something going horribly wrong.

She wasn't fit physically and she clearly wasn't fit mentally if she decided to go anyways, and it proved to be a big mistake.

I was rooting for her, but immediately changed my perspective when last week's injury happened and she said she'll go anyway. Foolish. I was even thinking about the reports of torn ligaments were overexaggerated so she'd have an excuse handy or she'd be an even bigger hero if she did win a medal, I'd never have thought a pro athlete with the best doctors would be so foolish to go at it 1 week after actually wrecking her knee ligaments.

It seems her knee was really well braced. So well she fell on the 3rd turn and broke her leg beneath the brace. Oh well, better than getting her lower leg turned 360 (which happened to a skier about 20 years ago, had to get his leg amputated).

Foolish, foolish, foolish.
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Heh. Noted. I will defer to people who ski and have watched the sport going forward. Not really a "cold weather" person (lived in HI for awhile) and (surprise, surprise) more charm than grace. So, anything with balance is ..uh sketchy. Will bow out of this conversation's substantive talking points, but...if I see a potential joke opening...you will be served!
 
Bollocks said:
speed skiing is a different

Speed skiing is similar risk, there are countless situations where not having the same knee anatomy from 1 week before bears risk of fall due to knee feeling different. Wearing a stiff knee brace makes you ski different. In the end the knee brace protected her knee at the cost of her bone.

There's a big difference between being slowly accustomed to the fact your knee is "different" and having specific training regimens to strengthen the muscles specifically to stabilize your knee, getting used to a knee brace etc.

Training sessions are a completely different beast compared to actual Olympic competition.

The fact she fell on turn 3 means that her head wasn't in the right place and/or because the leg responds differently if your knee is stabilized by a "foreign object".


Knowing when to say "enough" and admit defeat is braver than ramming your head through the wall to the detriment of yourself, your fans and other competitors. But I guess that's the kind of world we live in...
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As I said, it’s obviously preferable to have an ACL. The difference in speed skiing is you can technically compete. That just won’t happen in moguls. But yes Vonn was compromised and the reasons you listed are accurate as to why.

However, that doesn’t mean if she was fully healthy she wouldn’t crash in the exact same way. Anyone who is trying to medal is risking serious injury in that sport. She could do it, and things happen. It was heartbreaking to watch, too.

Breezy came in first in training and in the actual competition. But regardless the point is she was able to physically make that run in training so it was clearly possible for her.
 
I know nothing about the downhill skiing stuff other than the fact that it looks absolutely terrifying LOL. The drone camera they use for part of the map is badass!

For Vonn, it looks like if anything she crash and burned because she hit the flag thingy?? She has had practice runs already and had no issues so it's also bad luck on her part, outside of her foolishness for wanting to still compete with a torn ACL. But hey, it's the Olympics. I totally get it (to a certain extent). I just can't help but wonder if she could have forfeited her spot to give another American that chance if she already knew she was injured a week ago.
 
I'm no downhill expert....that being said.....

..........she was third in the qualifying - after she tore her ACL.

Vonn was ranked the number one downhill ski racer on cup circuit for this season.
Best of all time as well. Nobody can say she didn't earn her spot.

Her accomplishments are a plenty.

She was 3rd in a training run.
She had every right to be there and the decision was hers.

Wanna know why she crashed?
You don't have to be a ski expert to figure it out: She was skiing AGRESSIVELY to win!
With a gone ACL her line was aggressive......it's why she hit the gate airborne on a very aggressive line.
She was going for it!


Peeps on here throwing shade saying she wasn't brave or she was a narcissist.......

Cowards.
 
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Bollocks said:
Don't mistake foolishness, naivety or perhaps even narcissistic personality disorder with bravery.

She was brave to return to competitive skiing and achieving success. Bravery ended the moment the decision to compete at Olympics was made.

Let's not try to make her into an example that should be followed, allright?
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Is there a reason we must have a forced consensus on this.
I find that way too European.
 
Moog said:
I'm no downhill expert....that being said.....

..........she was third in the qualifying - after she tore her ACL.

Vonn was ranked the number one downhill ski racer on cup circuit for this season.
Best of all time as well. Nobody can say she didn't earn her spot.

Her accomplishments are a plenty.

She was 3rd in a training run.
She had every right to be there and the decision was hers.

Wanna know why she crashed?
You don't have to be a ski expert to figure it out: She was skiing AGRESSIVELY to win!
With a gone ACL her line was aggressive......it's why she hit the gate airborne on a very aggressive line.
She was going for it!


Peeps on here throwing shade saying she wasn't brave or she was a narcissist.......

Cowards.
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What if she made a mistake on the turn becase her knee was heavily braced? What if she made the mistake because her mental state wasn't great?

Training runs mean nothing. They're meant for the skiers to get to know the run (and especially younger skiers that don't know the slope that well won't go full throttle at all) and Vonn is so naturally talented that even with 50% effort and low risk skiing she could be in the top 5. She won in Cortina 8 times or something like that. She's probably be top 10 in training by skiing blindfolded. Also, her skis are likely the best prepared, being able to make time on straights while skiing much less risky on the turns.

A quote from Svindal:
“She was smart,’’ Aksel Lund Svindal – a two-time Olympic gold medalist himself – said. “No big risk. And to me, it looked symmetrical, like I didn’t see any difference right and left. And I think that’s kind of what we’re looking for today. I thought it went really, really well. She was, let’s put it this way, she’s tough.’’

Skis behave different when you're pushing (much) less than 100% and when you're pushing 100+% at a one-off race event with no second chances. So does an injured knee in a knee brace behave different.


It was either her knee that caused that mistake that led to the fall, or her head wasn't in the right space, or it was the combination of both.

With this I will end this discussion, as it is rather pointless.
 
Bollocks said:
What if she made a mistake on the turn becase her knee was heavily braced? What if she made the mistake because her mental state wasn't great?

Training runs mean nothing. They're meant for the skiers to get to know the run (and especially younger skiers that don't know the slope that well won't go full throttle at all) and Vonn is so naturally talented that even with 50% effort and low risk skiing she could be in the top 5. She won in Cortina 8 times or something like that. She's probably be top 10 in training by skiing blindfolded. Also, her skis are likely the best prepared, being able to make time on straights while skiing much less risky on the turns.

A quote from Svindal:
“She was smart,’’ Aksel Lund Svindal – a two-time Olympic gold medalist himself – said. “No big risk. And to me, it looked symmetrical, like I didn’t see any difference right and left. And I think that’s kind of what we’re looking for today. I thought it went really, really well. She was, let’s put it this way, she’s tough.’’

Skis behave different when you're pushing (much) less than 100% and when you're pushing 100+% at a one-off race event with no second chances. So does an injured knee in a knee brace behave different.


It was either her knee that caused that mistake that led to the fall, or her head wasn't in the right space, or it was the combination of both.

With this I will end this discussion, as it is rather pointless.
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Per ENews:Lindsey Vonn Breaks Silence on Olympics Injury, Reveals Real Reason Behind Crash:
Lindsey Vonn shared details about her 2026 Winter Olympics crash, during which she suffered a complex tibia fracture and had to be airlifted off the alpine ski course.
Lindsey Vonn is speaking out following a harrowing experience at the 2026 Olympics.

One day after crashing during the women’s downhill final at the Milano Cortina Winter Games, requiring her to be airlifted off the course, the alpine ski racer shared more details about the injury she sustained.

“Unfortunately, I sustained a complex tibia fracture that is currently stable,” Lindsey wrote on Instagram Feb. 9, referencing a type of break that typically shatters the bone into multiple pieces, “but will require multiple surgeries to fix properly.”

Although Lindsey was competing with a torn ACL, which she injured one week before the Winter Games, the three-time Olympic medalist clarified that the cause of her crash was completely unrelated to her physical health.

“I was simply 5 inches too tight on my line when my right arm hooked inside of the gate, twisting me and resulted in my crash,” the 41-year-old continued. “My ACL and past injuries had nothing to do with my crash whatsoever.”
 
Hockey53 said:
Per ENews:Lindsey Vonn Breaks Silence on Olympics Injury, Reveals Real Reason Behind Crash:
Lindsey Vonn shared details about her 2026 Winter Olympics crash, during which she suffered a complex tibia fracture and had to be airlifted off the alpine ski course.
Lindsey Vonn is speaking out following a harrowing experience at the 2026 Olympics.

One day after crashing during the women’s downhill final at the Milano Cortina Winter Games, requiring her to be airlifted off the course, the alpine ski racer shared more details about the injury she sustained.

“Unfortunately, I sustained a complex tibia fracture that is currently stable,” Lindsey wrote on Instagram Feb. 9, referencing a type of break that typically shatters the bone into multiple pieces, “but will require multiple surgeries to fix properly.”

Although Lindsey was competing with a torn ACL, which she injured one week before the Winter Games, the three-time Olympic medalist clarified that the cause of her crash was completely unrelated to her physical health.

“I was simply 5 inches too tight on my line when my right arm hooked inside of the gate, twisting me and resulted in my crash,” the 41-year-old continued. “My ACL and past injuries had nothing to do with my crash whatsoever.”
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Of course she will deny everything.

She either made a rookie mistake or she was very poorly advised by Aksel to take an untested and risky line for no sane reason. How much time could she gained by that very inside line? 0.3s? Breezy gained 1s+ in the lower half of the run compared to those that were very fast at the top.
 
Team USA mixed doubles curling, silver. Taken down by Swedish siblings. We lost to g.d. alliteration. Did we even have a chance??lol.
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Congrats Team SWD!
 
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