Panarin to Kings

I just watched some pro-Rags videos on this trade and the GM said Panarin decided this morning that the Kings were going to be the only team he wanted to be traded to and he wanted to move during the break. Supposedly Washington and Canes had better deals.

You know why he chose LA....it's the weather!

I love bread!
 
Statue4Deano said:
3 of the top 4 wingers are Panarin, Fiala and Kuzmenko. None of them fit in Hiller Hockey. It’s definitely gonna be funny to watch.
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Hopefully hiller will be gone soon...and I know a 6million dollar center we have that can't control the puck or win a face off to save his life we can shed for cap space as well
 
Liz4LA said:
I just watched some pro-Rags videos on this trade and the GM said Panarin decided this morning that the Kings were going to be the only team he wanted to be traded to and he wanted to move during the break. Supposedly Washington and Canes had better deals.

You know why he chose LA....it's the weather!

I love bread!
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If what I heard Panarin’s wife is also an actress,ala Janet(Gretzky)Jones,could be the other reason why he wanted to be traded here.Just saying
 
Panarin was on a last place team. What is he going to bring to the Kings. The Kings did not need Panarin, they need players with heart. Didn't Holland sign a three year contact. He doesn't give a flying f if this move buries this organization. He wasn't going to start the rebuild, the Kings will be a middle range team that is not bad enough to get a high draft choice but not good enough to get into the playoffs. The Kings were pathetic tonight playing against a team that was on a back to back on the road.
 
OK, so...Ken did something. Is it a good thing? I don't know.

First impressions:
+ from a win-now perspective (which is the unfortunate reality we live in) this wasn't too bad, he didn't give up a lot for him, and I like the contract extension - 2 years coincides with Ken's contract...I guess we're going all in for 2 more years and then we scrap it up; I guess this also makes sense from Doughty's perspective...which means 1 more year of overplayed DD and no DD trade at the deadline
+ powerplay should be improved
? 3 on 3 probably won't be improved if he's not a great skater?
- he's 34 and is likely on a decline already...Kovalchuk in his first season was around the same age as Panarin will be next season...not sure I like that
? he's not a very fast skater and he's not in any way, shape or form a two-way player...so how does he fit Hiller hockey? Is Ken firing Hiller, too? If so, when?
? he's more of a playmaker, but the Kings need finishers, and he's a right shot LW, so perhaps he'll be utilized as more of a finisher?
- if he wanted to come to LA because his wife/GF is an actress that can't be a great thing
- why the hell didn't he take Gavrikov with him in return for a 1st rounder?
- the Kings still need a center for next season...is Laf going to be the 2nd line center if Ken fails to sign someone at free agency (likelihood of which is very high)?
? Why on earth is Panarin listed as a Center on NHL.com? They might as well change the player positions to F if it's a forward, they have no clue.

To start:
Panarin-Byfield-Kempe
Fiala-Turcotte-Laferriere
Kuzmenko-Kopitar-Moore
Armia-Helenius-Perry

Foegele??? Malott, Ward

So...the Kings have improved skill on the offense...and defense is still missing a mobile D-man. More moves incoming if Ken is that serious about competing? We have another winger now...someone has to go. Foegele's trade value is at an all time low ATM but he's the most likely to go IMO from the perspective of improving this team's current chances.

From a perspective of maximizing assets, you trade Kuz and Perry for 2 late 1st round picks (with a late pick added if necessary) and turn that and Ceci/Dumo/Edmundson into someone able to man the PP and able to play 3 on 3...but IMO Ken is too much of an ego to admit his mistake in signing Ceci/Dumo to do something like that and trading Clarke's D-partner might not be a good idea.
 
ICE24 said:
Trading for a player like this to a team that will not make the playoffs is ludicrous.
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*this year.

There is time to improve this team in the offseason. Trade Perry and Kuzmenko at the deadline for two 1sts, trade one of the goalies, DD, one of the goalies not named Carter or George, and Fiala at the draft and that makes it enough assets to trade for Elias and a very solid top 2/4 mobile D-man with a good contract. Find another D-man UFA market and dump Ceci.

Along with a more capable HC this team suddenly becomes much more capable without mortgaging any significant future this team already has in the pipeline/draft pick stockpile.

Panarin-Elias-Kempe
Foegele-QB-Laferriere
Lee-Turcotte-Moore
Ward-Helenius-Armia

Mikey-Clarke
Dumoulin-"New guy trade"
Wooley/Kirsanov/Moverare-"New guy UFA"

Forsberg/Kuemper - Portillo

This is in line with the win-now approach of Ken, but he doesn't have the b***s to do something as radical as this. So we'll probably have to settle for a half-@ssed approach and be happy with a new coach and maybe, if we're lucky, Elias Pettersson at the cost of current assets because Perry will end up walking for nothing (and eventually one or both of the goalies), Kuz getting resigned and Fiala getting to frustrate us for the foreseeable future. But most likely someone without a 1st line pedigree, thus ending up with 2 2nd line centers and same old D-corps. Spinning tires for another year at least...
 
Perry is being exposed out on the ice and is a huge liability on the defensive side. His age has finally caught up to him. I don't see any team giving up a first for him today. I don't know who falls down on the ice more, Kopitar or Perry. Father time has taken its toll on these two, it happens. They both had great careers.
 
Panarin hasn't played a game in a while, he wasn't able to get on a plane last night after the trade and fly out to Vegas to meet the team and play in one game tonight? After the game, fly back to NY for the week off? I guess this Vegas game is not that important.
 
VCRW said:
Mayor is thinking Panarin may play with Byfield and Fiala. I laughed when he said that. Terrible idea. 2 puck chasers and an offense only forward would produce more minuses than plusses.
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2 puck chasers? I think you give Fiala far too much credit there
 
Seems like a low risk, big reward trade. Even if it doesn't work out, the term of the extension (only 2 years) makes him tradable in a year or two, if necessary (most likely with salary retention). The fact that the extension was only two years is one of the best aspects of this deal.
 
05/29/93 said:
Seems like a low risk, big reward trade. Even if it doesn't work out, the term of the extension (only 2 years) makes him tradable in a year or two, if necessary (most likely with salary retention). The fact that the extension was only two years is one of the best aspects of this deal.
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No word on a No Trade/Movement in the extension but it seems likely.
 
ICE24 said:
Perry is being exposed out on the ice and is a huge liability on the defensive side. His age has finally caught up to him. I don't see any team giving up a first for him today. I don't know who falls down on the ice more, Kopitar or Perry. Father time has taken its toll on these two, it happens. They both had great careers.
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He is? His +/- is better than most forwards and not by a little. Only Kopitar, Kempe and Laf are better and two of the those are premier defensive players in the entire league.
 
Halfwall said:
He is? His +/- is better than most forwards and not by a little. Only Kopitar, Kempe and Laf are better and two of the those are premier defensive players in the entire league.
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OK, I guess we will see what happens when he plays in a different system.
 
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