Panarin to Kings

Panarin after 20 games: 8 goals, 15 assists, +8, playing 21 minutes a game exactly on average. 14.3% shooting percentage which is in line with his career average.
He's been great and the top line has improved with him on the ice. Everyone has improved as DryKing noted.
Panarin’s turnaround in +/- since leaving the Rangers results in large part from playing on a line with a pair of 200’ players who are also offensively gifted. Playing with 9 & 11 is a perfect situation for Artemi. He can take more chances and be more creative with the puck knowing that Kopi and Juice are on the ice. And playing with 10 & 11, Juice can finally find some open ice because the threat of Panarin can’t be ignored. I really like this line. Just wish Kopi were 5 years younger.
 
Panarin’s turnaround in +/- since leaving the Rangers results in large part from playing on a line with a pair of 200’ players who are also offensively gifted. Playing with 9 & 11 is a perfect situation for Artemi. He can take more chances and be more creative with the puck knowing that Kopi and Juice are on the ice. And playing with 10 & 11, Juice can finally find some open ice because the threat of Panarin can’t be ignored. I really like this line. Just wish Kopi were 5 years younger.

Kopi finally got his perfect left wing again...in his retirement season. :(
 
Panarin after 20 games: 8 goals, 15 assists, +8, playing 21 minutes a game exactly on average. 14.3% shooting percentage which is in line with his career average.
He's been great and the top line has improved with him on the ice. Everyone has improved as DryKing noted.
Dude is a gamer for sure.

I also think QB has improved since playing with TO and Laffy. That’s been a really good line lately.
 
Panarin is making it apparent that Fiala is not exactly necessary. Fiala’s NMC switches to a 10 team NTC this summer… he’s got 3 years @ 7.88M cap hit left on his deal.
 
Panarin is making it apparent that Fiala is not exactly necessary. Fiala’s NMC switches to a 10 team NTC this summer… he’s got 3 years @ 7.88M cap hit left on his deal.
Not sure I agree. We have a solid 1st line currently which lacks a center next season. If we then assume Byfield stays on L2, he would be playing with two 3rd line wingers in TO and Laf. One of them is likely fine on the 2nd line, but not both. Out of the two, Laf still has additional upside, which means we'd be in need of a L2 winger.

Fiala may not be the right fit, but, as Emsomaso said, we need the offense.
 
Not sure I agree. We have a solid 1st line currently which lacks a center next season. If we then assume Byfield stays on L2, he would be playing with two 3rd line wingers in TO and Laf. One of them is likely fine on the 2nd line, but not both. Out of the two, Laf still has additional upside, which means we'd be in need of a L2 winger.

Fiala may not be the right fit, but, as Emsomaso said, we need the offense.

But that's exactly the problem, isn't it? We waited so long to see some progress with Byfield again...why ruin it? Is forcing Fiala instead of TO on the 2nd line going to be a big enough improvement on the offensive end to be worth it?

With both Kuzmenko and Fiala back and clear as a day Panarin-Kempe chemistry, where does Fiala slot in?Add to that the fact that this team desperately needs a top 6 center and a solid puck moving D-man...

Kuzmenko is almost certainly coming back and will have zero trade value. Granted, Fiala's trade value won't be at an all time high either, but...what can you do?

If this team was on a solid PO trajectory with Fiala in and without Panarin it would be worth the risk of trying to smash everything together into an even better team. But this team needed more than 1 relatively big roster move before Fiala's injury and it needs at least one more now that Kopitar will retire...and I really don't want Ken to trade away many 1st rounders...
 
But that's exactly the problem, isn't it? We waited so long to see some progress with Byfield again...why ruin it? Is forcing Fiala instead of TO on the 2nd line going to be a big enough improvement on the offensive end to be worth it?

With both Kuzmenko and Fiala back and clear as a day Panarin-Kempe chemistry, where does Fiala slot in?Add to that the fact that this team desperately needs a top 6 center and a solid puck moving D-man...

Kuzmenko is almost certainly coming back and will have zero trade value. Granted, Fiala's trade value won't be at an all time high either, but...what can you do?

If this team was on a solid PO trajectory with Fiala in and without Panarin it would be worth the risk of trying to smash everything together into an even better team. But this team needed more than 1 relatively big roster move before Fiala's injury and it needs at least one more now that Kopitar will retire...and I really don't want Ken to trade away many 1st rounders...
Maybe we could Fiala for a 1or 2C? Probably not straight up but in a package. Moore is another possibility but I don't think he'll get a higher return. I also don't think Kuzmenko is going to be resigned. I could be wrong but I don't see where he fits.
 
Maybe we could Fiala for a 1or 2C? Probably not straight up but in a package. Moore is another possibility but I don't think he'll get a higher return. I also don't think Kuzmenko is going to be resigned. I could be wrong but I don't see where he fits.

That was my line of thinking.

Moore seems to have gelled well with QB and Laf. I'd avoid disrupting that with Fiala of all players, whose game evidently isn't a good fit with QB.
 
But that's exactly the problem, isn't it? We waited so long to see some progress with Byfield again...why ruin it? Is forcing Fiala instead of TO on the 2nd line going to be a big enough improvement on the offensive end to be worth it?

With both Kuzmenko and Fiala back and clear as a day Panarin-Kempe chemistry, where does Fiala slot in?Add to that the fact that this team desperately needs a top 6 center and a solid puck moving D-man...

Kuzmenko is almost certainly coming back and will have zero trade value. Granted, Fiala's trade value won't be at an all time high either, but...what can you do?

If this team was on a solid PO trajectory with Fiala in and without Panarin it would be worth the risk of trying to smash everything together into an even better team. But this team needed more than 1 relatively big roster move before Fiala's injury and it needs at least one more now that Kopitar will retire...and I really don't want Ken to trade away many 1st rounders...
I don't disagree with you; fit is a problem.

In the scenario in which Byfield moves up to center Panarin/Kempe (let's be honest, the three have shown a lot of chemistry together), I think the Kings then need to find a L2 center that meshes with Fiala.

In the scenario in which Byfield remains the L2 center and the Kings sign/trade for a top center, then I agree with you that it may be time to trade Fiala.

Fiala and Turcotte do work well together (and likely would work well with Laughton), so that may be another solution. Really all comes down to the Kings center situation for next season.

Also, isn't Kuz a FA this summer? I was thinking they likely will not resign him, rather than try to sign and trade him.
 
Kopi finally got his perfect left wing again...in his retirement season. :(
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I don't disagree with you; fit is a problem.

In the scenario in which Byfield moves up to center Panarin/Kempe (let's be honest, the three have shown a lot of chemistry together), I think the Kings then need to find a L2 center that meshes with Fiala.

In the scenario in which Byfield remains the L2 center and the Kings sign/trade for a top center, then I agree with you that it may be time to trade Fiala.

Fiala and Turcotte do work well together (and likely would work well with Laughton), so that may be another solution. Really all comes down to the Kings center situation for next season.

Also, isn't Kuz a FA this summer? I was thinking they likely will not resign him, rather than try to sign and trade him.
The more I think about it, Kuzy is redundant now that the Kings have Panarin (who can play the whole two minutes of a PP). I don’t think both on the same PP works.
With the Kings not having all that much cap space for next year I think letting Kuzy walk is probably the right move. Maybe use his money for Laughton.
 

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