santiclaws
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Yeah, it's been the rumor for a couple of days. The Kings are supposedly looking at Jake McCabe. He'd be a pretty solid pickup.
So, who do we keep, trade or promote?
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Yeah, it's been the rumor for a couple of days. The Kings are supposedly looking at Jake McCabe. He'd be a pretty solid pickup.
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Illegal_Stick
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I’m surprised they have anything left to give.
Pevsfreedom
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My wife says she wants to adopt Fiala as our son as he's just so darn cute and was smiling the entire time. It might work seeing as he's 5 years younger than us.
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AngelEyes
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And what idiot chose the unis for the game? It was very distracting trying to keep track of the two sides. But hey, what do I know. If the league is fully embracing moving ads on the boards, why should they care about how easily or hard it is for viewers to distinguish the two sides. I've pretty much always defended the All-Star Game in the past, but this year was all-around dumb.
DryKing
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He would be, but based on his $4m AAV through 24/25 I'd pass.
santiclaws
I was in the pool!!
He'd be a solid second pairing D, so 4M is quite reasonable, and he's only 29. 8th in the league in blocked shots/4th per 60 min. I think he's the only plus player on the Hawks. They're +2 with him on the ice and -51 without him.
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VCRW
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I’d be okay if McCabe is acquired but not thrilled. I remember him as a solid player with a bad Buffalo team. I agree he is the right age as well.
More size would be my preference. While he is left shot, McCabe is another 6 foot, 200 lb. guy.
DryKing
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All great things and I don't think he is overpaid, however at $4m he holds us back from getting a defender that we really need imo - someone with size and a nasty streak. Mikey is going to be due a big upgrade in pay next year, and with Drew's monster contract we are a bit limited with almost $6 spread between Roy and Walker. If either Roy or Walker go the other way in the trade though it may work, but I'd rather the Kings address the hole they truly need to fill even if it costs a little more to do so.
santiclaws
I was in the pool!!
A top four left defenseman who has size, a nasty streak, and is available? Name one.
Clif
Super Star
Those 3 are intriguing players. All of them are great scorers at their respective levels. And speaking of Clarke he and Pinelli seem to have hit it off and become quick friends. Cool to see.
Clif
Super Star
All of the reported LD’s available have their problems. McCabe has an injury history and doesn’t put up points. Gavrikov is 6’3” but rarely hits. Chychrun has quite the injury track record too and is so expensive to get. Provorov is overpaid at 6M+ and sitting out Pride Night in PHI is ugly. Imagine telling JAD that’s his new teammate.
Hoping Blake surprises in the off-season over these options. Or signs Soucy as a UFA.
Hoping Blake surprises in the off-season over these options. Or signs Soucy as a UFA.
HeadInjury
2 Late to Change My Name
If they were to trade for McCabe, they might have to put Durzi on the right side of that pairing. Otherwise, we'd have a third pairing of Edler-Durzi which is problematic. An Edler-Roy third pairing is probably better (or a Bjornfot-Roy pairing).
The problem with trying to go UFA this summer is we will overpay and have to go long term if we are trying to get an impact player. For sure we could make a run at Soucy, but so can many other teams, including Seattle. He might never make it to free agency.
McCabe is signed for two more years at $4 million, so if you get him then the left side is stabilized for a while. He's not an impact player, but I don't think we really need that. I'm sure the Blackhawks will want a first, but maybe a package like Kupari, a 2nd and salary going back (Walker?) might get it done.
DryKing
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You are clearly missing the point. McCabe has another two seasons, after this one, on contract at $4m AAV. Therein, trading for him not only effects this season, but also likely the next two with next year being the key. We already have $18.5m committed to our D next season, without Anderson factored in. Adding another $4m that commits us to $22.5m (+Anderson), so the Kings would need multiple dominoes to fall (aka roster players traded) to allow the opportunity to sign a Defenseman we truly need if one becomes available or through FA.
In essence we would likely be overpaying for McCabe at the trade deadline, then continuing to overpay by having to ensure additional roster player(s) are moved at near any cost. If we want to send back someone like Walker or Roy, that raises the cost even more as the Hawks likely will not accept them without additional picks or prospects thrown in as compensation for taking either of those players.
If McCabe is your man then sure you do it, but otherwise you are just putting a band aide on a bullet hole and allowing the wound to continue to fester.
santiclaws
I was in the pool!!
I am not missing the point. Would I like a bigger, meander defenseman in that position? Sure. Is one available? No. Could one become available in the next two years? Maybe, more likely not, or maybe the price will be way too high (see Chychrun). So you just bleed out for the rest of this season and two more in the hopes that an opportunity does come along? What if it never does? Even if they have McCabe, and another opportunity comes along for a defeseman who is a perfect fit, good teams make it work. You flip McCabe or someone else, you do what you need to do. Maybe you trade Roy and get a partner for McCabe who has size and snarl. Look at TB or Colorado; they do what they need to do and manage the cap with a lot of expensive contracts.
Also, you're also seriously undervaluing Roy and likely Walker. Roy gets a decent return, you don't have to add to trade him. Right shot D are valuable, and he's a legit second-pairing RD on a lot of NHL teams. I bet you could get something in return for Walker, too.
DryKing
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It's cool, you would trade for him, I probably would not (though there was an interesting idea floating about Chicago retaining part of his salary which would change my mind).
A couple things though: Colorado hasn't been built off rentals, they have developed a core from within most of whom have been willing to take deals under market value to keep the team as together as possible (note, this has not happened on the Kings as the last core member to sign for under market value was Dustin Brown). They have added to fill holes, but rarely on short term deals. They target who they want and typically keep them until they can no longer afford them.
Second, we are talking about Chicago so no I am not undervaluing Roy or Walker - plain truth is Chicago is looking to rebuild and has little interest in trading for vets at the moment unless they can flip them for a prospect/picks, accept the trade with a sweetener attached, or fall below the salary floor. Now the most likely scenario which makes sense if Walker or Roy was to be traded to Chicago ends up with us in some way overpaying to offload them, only for Chicago to flip them for something they covet.
HeadInjury
2 Late to Change My Name
Even if Chicago didn't want Roy, they'd happily take him in a trade to flip him. Roy returns a second-round pick at a minimum. Kings wouldn't use him as a cap throw-in for purposes of completing a trade.
I agree we'd probably have to add a sweetener to trade Walker right now. Either that or retain some of his salary.
I agree we'd probably have to add a sweetener to trade Walker right now. Either that or retain some of his salary.
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DarkLeftHand
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Dude, the Kraken just acquired Megna from the Sharks for a conditional 4th round pick.. can that be correct? Where the **** was Rob Blake on this? Megna is huge, a LHD, and also a +6 on a miserable Sharks team, with an extra year at 765k. Furthermore, didn't Erik Karlsson point to Megna as being a guy who's helped him open his game back up? Like, he's EXACTLY the guy we need on our blue line!!
santiclaws
I was in the pool!!
I think the fact that the Sharks couldn't get more than a conditional 4th for him is all you need to know.
Bollocks
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Who says the Sharks want to help their division rival?
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