All Things HORROR


Those, except for maybe one, weren't the questions I had.

I truly did enjoy watching the movie, and it was only afterwards that some of the questions came to mind. And kept coming. But that isn't to say that it wasn't fun and worth watching, its just that there are some really interesting ideas in the movie that stick in your head for days afterwards, but they don't exactly hold up to scrutiny.

And spoiler be damned, I thought Mordecai was really just a method actor, not a harbinger.
 
I just saw it... so start a ****ing spoiler thread and let's talk about it.

I don't think I have any questions because dammit... it's clearly not a "perfect" movie with no plot holes. It CAN'T BE because it's all completely fictional.

So I roll with whatever contradictions may occur to me down the road.

I also didn't think it was a game changer or anything like that. It was a wonderfully fun and creative little flick and I'm glad I saw it with almost zero notion of what I was in for.
 
I just saw it... so start a ****ing spoiler thread and let's talk about it.

I don't think I have any questions because dammit... it's clearly not a "perfect" movie with no plot holes. It CAN'T BE because it's all completely fictional.

So I roll with whatever contradictions may occur to me down the road.

I also didn't think it was a game changer or anything like that. It was a wonderfully fun and creative little flick and I'm glad I saw it with almost zero notion of what I was in for.

Pretty much feel the same. I've seen it twice now and wasn't quite as enthused about how unique it was the second time, but still had a ****load of fun with it.

It actually reminds me a lot of Before The Mask: The Rise Of Leslie Vernon.
 

yup. There's a novelization too that I want to read just in case it has stuff that was cut from the flick. Not surprised it was lessened upon second viewing. It's like Identity(which is underated) once you know the shamalayan it takes some wind outta...

That being said, I am a little disappointed that you guys are harshing on it a bit. Doc's compliment was almost backhanded, sorry Doc. There seems to be this 'chinese food' opinion about the movie. You know, it was fun at the time, but now, a half hour later, I am over it. Just read the EW review where they said that it was not the deconstruction it claims to be, that basically by resorting to the 'empty the elevators' third act that it basically just became another movie like ones they were targeting. I disagree immensely. Just my opinion, but in a world of retreads/vapid pg-13 horror even with it's faults I have to heap high praise on this for actually being a heady experience. I am not trying to start an all out fight(you hear me Doc?) I am just thinking this movie deserves higher praise than it is getting.
 
Fantasia Fest 2011: 'Morituris' Review - FEARnet

When it comes to horror films that hail from the great land of Italy, you never know what you're going to get -- but you can bet it will probably be pretty aggressive. From the classic days of Bava, Argento and Fulci to today's film festival fare, Italy certainly does deliver horror films of a decidedly controversial nature. One of their most recent exports, Raffaele Picchio's Morituris, is sure to earn itself lots of post-screening chit-chat as it bounces across the festival circuit.

Rarely am I of two distinct minds on one specific film, but I really am torn on this one. Let's start with the good news:

This is a brutal, unrelenting, and frequently unpredictable piece of survival horror. Although we open with five typical youths on their way to another typical rave, the filmmakers pull the rug out from us right away: turns out this is not at all a group of friends. Instead it is a group of three predators and two prey. The travelers turn on one another in truly shocking fashion, which leads to some rather nasty repercussions -- and all of this happens well before the "real" horrors of the foreboding forest show themselves.

From the moment the cruelty begins, Morituris becomes awash in bleak, oppressive horror. Characters are brutally abused and left wandering naked into even worse fates; the music and the cinematography are consistently unnerving; there's an feverish and savage edge to the proceedings that most horror films wouldn't have the stones to explore. There's actually a lot to like about this nasty little horror flick, not the least of which is that it may mark a small return to form for the horror-lovin' nation of Italy...

...Perhaps Picchio's intent was to bring a grindhouse-style "I Spit On Your Grave" aspect to the proceedings; I'd say he's succeeded -- but that's not a compliment. I'm sure that the director (and his two co-writers) would have a good explanation as to why their dark, nasty, mostly effective little horror flick has to feature such a long and soul-bruising scene of sexual abuse, but speaking only as one horror fan (and one who despises censorship) I'd be a lot more comfortable recommending Morituris if it didn't wallow in basic depravity quite so tenaciously.

So in the long run: Morituris is a harsh and rough little stretch of road, and one that has some strong assets in its corner -- but something slightly askew in its soul.

I keep waiting for a release on this. Personally I have so many problems with graphic rape scenes but that's why they call it horror, it's supposed to offend.
 
Well how high do you want to get? I mean come on... as a "fun" movie it gets a 10 out of me. Honestly... that was ****ing fun.

But if you want to suggest that it gets into some kind of high minded breakdown of society and ****... South Park did a 22 minute episode with a decapitated Britney Spears that said all this movie had to say about society.

I thought it was awesome and I would watch the "emptying of the elevators" every day for the next week if I could. On a loop. Constantly.

But I didn't like the ending... which I get is kind of what the ending was a metaphor of.... but come on.
 
Well how high do you want to get? I mean come on... as a "fun" movie it gets a 10 out of me. Honestly... that was ****ing fun.

But if you want to suggest that it gets into some kind of high minded breakdown of society and ****... South Park did a 22 minute episode with a decapitated Britney Spears that said all this movie had to say about society.

I thought it was awesome and I would watch the "emptying of the elevators" every day for the next week if I could. On a loop. Constantly.

But I didn't like the ending... which I get is kind of what the ending was a metaphor of.... but come on.

Ok, that's a little better. I have to ask, did you not like the ending because of it's not-so-happy endingness or did you have philosophical problems with it?
 
Ok, that's a little better. I have to ask, did you not like the ending because of it's not-so-happy endingness or did you have philosophical problems with it?

It just wasn't as fun as the rest of the movie... so for me it was like... build build build laugh laugh laugh tense tense tense fun fun fun....

piffle.

EDIT : And I agree with adgy that it reminded me of Behind the Mask (which I also love) and I'll toss in Trick or Treat.

I mean I really like this movie and I think it's the logical extension of Scream (which I also loved).
 
Yea but two totally different movies. I love that ending if it's The Thing or even something like The Mist.

But for Cabin In The Woods? I wanted more fun. Whatever. It's not enough to make me like the movie any less.

You don't always get everything you want exactly the way you want it. :)
 
Yea but two totally different movies. I love that ending if it's The Thing or even something like The Mist.

But for Cabin In The Woods? I wanted more fun. Whatever. It's not enough to make me like the movie any less.

You don't always get everything you want exactly the way you want it. :)


That's a good point. Too heavy for the overall tone??? I don't know. The movie has some serious change-ups throughout the course of, and for me, it worked. Anything else would have rang hollow. That's just me though.
 
Collins’ Crypt: Yes, THE CABIN IN THE WOODS Is Horror| Badass Digest

I could go on and on, because this is the first horror film in years that I've been truly blown away by, and there's plenty to discuss and chew over, but this (very small and thankfully not too vocal) "backlash" really bummed me out. I don't care if you don't like the movie - no movie is ever going to satisfy everyone, certainly not a horror movie (one that requires a little brain activity to boot). But the dismissals I see from usually clear-thinking folks are in some ways more upsetting than Rex Reed's now legendary and hilariously inept review, because some of them (not Vern's, I should stress) almost seem to be of the opinion that the film can't be considered horror simply because it's intelligent. One point of the film is that we NEED horror movies to keep the world from descending into chaos - because of that, The Cabin In The Woods has done more to validate the genre than you, I, or any other horror critic ever will.
 
That's a good point. Too heavy for the overall tone??? I don't know. The movie has some serious change-ups throughout the course of, and for me, it worked. Anything else would have rang hollow. That's just me though.

Not too heavy... too anticlimactic. I know that may sound crazy given the scope of the climax... but that's a macguffin. They really just end the story in a blah manner. Again it's just about pacing for me. The stakes are so high and the action has just been ramping up and up and up and then.... piff. It's over. I guess I would have preferred an ending that had some manner of epilogue.


I disagree. I think it was a comedy.
 
Not too heavy... too anticlimactic. I know that may sound crazy given the scope of the climax... but that's a macguffin. They really just end the story in a blah manner. Again it's just about pacing for me. The stakes are so high and the action has just been ramping up and up and up and then.... piff. It's over. I guess I would have preferred an ending that had some manner of epilogue.



I disagree. I think it was a comedy.


Ok...so the ending was too abrupt. Almost like they painted themselves into a corner? I get that argument too, I just can't see any alternative to where they went coming off as anything other than a cop out. The ending you are looking for just may not exist. As I have expressed, I fully bit on the ending because it was atypical of your standard Hollywood 'let's set up the sequel' finale'. And, let's face it, as evidenced by the Thing and The Mist, most moviegoers don't want that harsh glass of cold water to the face kind of ending. They want to go home happy and content in their belief that all's well that ends well. So yeah, I am probably more in love with the ending than I should be.

And no, it wasn't a comedy. It had elements...but if I am filing this in my (non-existent) video store, that puppy goes on the horror shelf.
 
Ok...so the ending was too abrupt. Almost like they painted themselves into a corner? I get that argument too, I just can't see any alternative to where they went coming off as anything other than a cop out. The ending you are looking for just may not exist. As I have expressed, I fully bit on the ending because it was atypical of your standard Hollywood 'let's set up the sequel' finale'. And, let's face it, as evidenced by the Thing and The Mist, most moviegoers don't want that harsh glass of cold water to the face kind of ending. They want to go home happy and content in their belief that all's well that ends well. So yeah, I am probably more in love with the ending than I should be.

And no, it wasn't a comedy. It had elements...but if I am filing this in my (non-existent) video store, that puppy goes on the horror shelf.

I just want to stress again that my mild displeasure with the ending in no way diminishes my fondness for the movie. I still love it.

I guess I just wanted more movie.

As for comedy vs. horror.

I dunno... I look at it like Ghostbusters. The subject matter is "horror stuff" but tonally it was more about humor than trauma.
 
I found it more charming and "cool" than funny. Weren't all of the comedic elements played directly off of mocking/embracing horror cliches?

To me a it was a loving parody that wasn't really "funny", and it wasn't really a pure "horror" film in the sense that it intentionally made it's "horror" moments blatantly obvious so that it could direct your attention to the intended deconstruction of the genre.

I had a blast watching it. But since it revels in its own cleverness, it kind of opens the door to examining just how clever it really is. A movie like Scream also managed to mock and hug horror at the same time, without ever seeming like it was trying to be the smartest movie in the room. Cabin has that geeky, snarky kind of element to it, and, well, it just sort of invites you to question it moreso than just accepting it as a thrill ride.
 
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