D.J. Smith Hotseat Thread

[DryKing]

As I said already - 3 point regulation win, 2 point OT (5 on 5 or 4 on 4) win, 1 point SO win, 0 point ties and 0 point losses - ANY losses.

I don't think going to overtime should result in a loss of point as it's a positive fan experience (and the NHL needs fans).

I'd say:

3 points win (regular or overtime)
1 point for each time in the event of a tie
0 points for a loss (regulation or overtime)

Eliminate 3 on3 overtime and shootout

 

[ICE24]

I feel like getting the point for losing in OT or a SO, is the same as receiving a participation trophy when your team comes in 6th out of 6 teams.

 

[Bollocks]

I don't think going to overtime should result in a loss of point as it's a positive fan experience (and the NHL needs fans).

I'd say:

3 points win (regular or overtime)
1 point for each time in the event of a tie
0 points for a loss (regulation or overtime)

Eliminate 3 on3 overtime and shootout

The positive fan experience should be the team battling hard to win in regulation, or at least in the OT...they would play to win instead of playing it safe.

 

[DryKing]

The positive fan experience should be the team battling hard to win in regulation, or at least in the OT...they would play to win instead of playing it safe.

Yeah but this gives both battling hard to win (only way to 3 points) and overtime - both being positive for the fan experience.

What you and I both agree on is getting rid of the participation trophy (points awarded just by making it to overtime).

 

[Moog]

Fans only complain about the OT point system when their team is beyond horrific in OT.

Hence, here is where we are.

 

[TooCool]

I don't think going to overtime should result in a loss of point as it's a positive fan experience (and the NHL needs fans).

I'd say:

3 points win (regular or overtime)
1 point for each time in the event of a tie
0 points for a loss (regulation or overtime)

Eliminate 3 on3 overtime and shootout

I was showing a work colleague where the Kings were in the standings. He only follows soccer (i think) and doesn't know anything about hockey. But when he saw that the Kings got all those loser points he was like "That's crazy. It should be 0 points for losing in OT or shootout." =o

 

[Clif]

I was showing a work colleague where the Kings were in the standings. He only follows soccer (i think) and doesn't know anything about hockey. But when he saw that the Kings got all those loser points he was like "That's crazy. It should be 0 points for losing in OT or shootout." =o

Wait til you tell him guys don’t roll around on the ice and cover the faces when someone grazes their shoulder.

 

[hokiecat]

Smith has done a great job on getting the Kings to cut down on the stupid plays. He's also got them fired up, starting hot, and playing a full 60+ minutes.

 

[Ice Rhino]

Again, my biggest fear is that we repeat the error with Hiller: we make the playoffs and use it as an excuse to resign a temporary coach.

 

[K-Man #32]

Give the man some credit for having us qualify for the playoffs

 

[Bollocks]

Again, my biggest fear is that we repeat the error with Hiller: we make the playoffs and use it as an excuse to resign a temporary coach.

I'd be willing to give him a 1 year "prove it" deal, depending how they perform in the playoffs. Maybe with a team option 2nd year HC or back to assistant coach or something like that. It's not like there are many head coaching vacancies out there for him...

There seems to be something clicking with Byfield lately. Since 16th of March he has been a PPG player, 13 points with 8 goals in 13 games, and well over 50% at the dot...the "project" is far from over, but there's a clear uptick in his production, confidence etc.

That alone could be worth keeping DJ around for another year to see if this "sticks".

 

[DoubleMinor]

I'd be willing to give him a 1 year "prove it" deal, depending how they perform in the playoffs. Maybe with a team option 2nd year HC or back to assistant coach or something like that. It's not like there are many head coaching vacancies out there for him...

There seems to be something clicking with Byfield lately. Since 16th of March he has been a PPG player, 13 points with 8 goals in 13 games, and well over 50% at the dot...the "project" is far from over, but there's a clear uptick in his production, confidence etc.

That alone could be worth keeping DJ around for another year to see if this "sticks".

I have no idea what the Kings should do re the Coach.
But I do know that there has been a noticeable improvement since DJ took over in most areas. Whether that means he should stay, I do not know. Above my pay grade.
But this team is more competitive, a bit more consistent, seems to have bought in to his style and leadership.
Regardless, I appreciate what DJ has done. And I would not object to a short term deal but again, if there are better alternatives they gotta look closely at those.

 

[Bollocks]

I have no idea what the Kings should do re the Coach.
But I do know that there has been a noticeable improvement since DJ took over in most areas. Whether that means he should stay, I do not know. Above my pay grade.
But this team is more competitive, a bit more consistent, seems to have bought in to his style and leadership.
Regardless, I appreciate what DJ has done. And I would not object to a short term deal but again, if there are better alternatives they gotta look closely at those.

I think he brought what his qualities were supposed to be (as I read back then) - he gave life to struggling players and gave them a chance to build confidence. It seems he knows which buttons to push.

I wonder if Panarin-Kopitar-Kempe line stays together and starts flourishing with Hiller at the helm. Probably not.

Now, winning a Cup kind of coach? Not with that kind of team...but that isn't going to magically change next season, is it?

So seeing that this team has quite a lot of "on the cusp" type of young-ish players (with maybe some others coming in next season, too) I think it would be wise to keep him around to see what he can do with an underdog bunch like that.

Unless there's a clear cut upgrade available.

But for the love of God, no 3 year contracts.

 

[ICE24]

DJ has four games left and then who?

 

[Ice Rhino]

I'd be willing to give him a 1 year "prove it" deal, depending how they perform in the playoffs. Maybe with a team option 2nd year HC or back to assistant coach or something like that. It's not like there are many head coaching vacancies out there for him...

There seems to be something clicking with Byfield lately. Since 16th of March he has been a PPG player, 13 points with 8 goals in 13 games, and well over 50% at the dot...the "project" is far from over, but there's a clear uptick in his production, confidence etc.

That alone could be worth keeping DJ around for another year to see if this "sticks".

I'm just not sure. How much of this is just from the coaching change, or the motivation being so close to the play offs vs. DJ? I like the way certain players have picked it up, like you said.

Would this continue to improve through next year? That I'm not sure about. I'd like to see a solid, quality coaching change. Or, I'd like to be proved wrong when and if DJ can succeed through a whole season.

 

[DryKing]

I'm just not sure. How much of this is just from the coaching change, or the motivation being so close to the play offs vs. DJ? I like the way certain players have picked it up, like you said.

Would this continue to improve through next year? That I'm not sure about. I'd like to see a solid, quality coaching change. Or, I'd like to be proved wrong when and if DJ can succeed through a whole season.

DJ is a decent coach for a team looking to try and make the playoffs, but not one, at this point, for a team expecting to make the playoffs and looking to go deep.

What the Kings need, at this point, is a totally new HC with a long and successful history at the NHL level.

Enough of his promoting the assistant coach and hoping it works. It's time for the Organization to get serious.

 

[ICE24]

The Ducks got themselves a proven championship coach for a team trending upward. I don't believe the Kings are on the same trajectory. The Ducks went through growing pains this year but managed to take 3rd in the division. The Kings have more holes to fill than the Ducks this offseason.

The Kings have made the playoffs five straight years but this Kings team is probably the worst of them. I believe no matter who the Kings bring in as coach, they take a step backward and the Sharks will take their spot in the playoffs. We will see what type of GM Holland is and can he make a difference.

 

[Bollocks]

DJ is a decent coach for a team looking to try and make the playoffs, but not one, at this point, for a team expecting to make the playoffs and looking to go deep.

What the Kings need, at this point, is a totally new HC with a long and successful history at the NHL level.

Enough of his promoting the assistant coach and hoping it works. It's time for the Organization to get serious.

And who is, at this point, available? Genuinely asking...there may be some, but probably not a lot. And they'd have to want a real challenge...

 

[aragorn]

I'd say:

3 points win (regular or overtime)
1 point for each time in the event of a tie
0 points for a loss (regulation or overtime)

Eliminate 3 on3 overtime and shootout

Boy do we disagree HUGE here. The fans love a finale, not a tie... and I'm one of them. Yes, 3on3 is a bit of a gimmick (and shootout even more so). Hence they get gimmick points. I don't know why some of you are so against it. I absolutely hated going to ties in the old days, and so did most fans. I think that 3 points for a regulation win is far and away enough incentive to go for a win. 2 points to 1 for OT win. And you have to keep the shootout for the fans and some finality to a game. 1.5 to 1 for shootouts. We are all adults and can handle 1/2 points in our calculations. Either that or 2 points for regulation wins, 1 point to zero for OT win, and 1/2 point to 0 for shootout wins. That keeps the season-end points fairly familiar. The only other way I can see it happening is 2-0 for regulation and 1-0 for OT and shootouts, with shootouts as we do now of being the last choice in playoff tiebreaks.

 

[Ice Rhino]

Let's see how DJ handles the playoffs...