FA 2025 (lets get the discussions in one thread)

Also lost Hague and Roy, two of their larger players. Did they bring back any big bodies yet?
Lauzon is big and mean had over 380 hits his last healthy season. Sissons is big too. The Hague trade was really smart by them.

I agree losing Pietrangelo is a big deal. He was clearly hurt in the playoffs and that effected them. Not having him at all will hurt but I’d still pick them as division winners pretty easily.
 
The West could be really interesting this year. My pick for best team in the conference is COL. They got even better after the Rantanen trade and shouldn’t be tired from too much hockey.

By contrast, I will be curious to see how DAL and EDM especially respond. Neither have gotten better. EDM still doesn’t have a new goalie. After both have had multiple Cup or Bust seasons, and indeed busting, the regular season is going to mean even less to them. I could see both going through the motions at times due to fatigue on multiple levels. I can’t see them missing the playoffs, but teams like ANH, SEA, and Utah all made moves and are hungry to get in. CAL has Wolf. I expect a very tight year.
One thing is certain EDM won’t win the division and instead will finish 2nd while the Kings finish 3rd.
 
One thing is certain EDM won’t win the division and instead will finish 2nd while the Kings finish 3rd.
I know you're joking but I do think the Kings finish 3rd. We spent a lot of money to not improve but the field behind us is as big of a mess.

One thing I find fascinating is about half the league is sitting on 10M+ of cap space. After years of teams "weaponizing cap space", suddenly everyone seems to have an extra million or ten floating around.
 
I know you're joking but I do think the Kings finish 3rd. We spent a lot of money to not improve but the field behind us is as big of a mess.

One thing I find fascinating is about half the league is sitting on 10M+ of cap space. After years of teams "weaponizing cap space", suddenly everyone seems to have an extra million or ten floating around.
Get ready for the Kings struggle to stay in the playoff race through Feb. then come the trade deadline you’ll see Holland go all in for Rickard Rakell.
 
One thing is certain EDM won’t win the division and instead will finish 2nd while the Kings finish 3rd.
It’s as possible as other outcomes. It’s a ton of hockey, as well as heartbreak, for the Oilers. McDavid may be just as all-in but it’s a big ask to get all those guys to match that energy year after year, especially if nothing changes in net. They could finish 2nd, 3rd or wildcard. I really just don’t know how they’ll respond. Also waiting to see if McDavid resigns before the season starts. I’m sure he will, but if he doesn’t, they may not even make the playoffs. Seriously. That’s a morale torpedo and a constant media circus.
 
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Let us finish with a wildcard while Edmonton finishes 2nd so we can avoid them next playoffs. :ROFLMAO:
Unfortunately I see this happening, but not because of a bigger plan to avoid Edmonton. My best guess is that after how last season ended, this team core quits on Hiller by Christmas. I hope I am wrong.
 
Unfortunately I see this happening, but not because of a bigger plan to avoid Edmonton. My best guess is that after how last season ended, this team core quits on Hiller by Christmas. I hope I am wrong.
I’d be surprised if they do. After all, the consensus by the players after their 1st round exit again was that Hiller didn’t order them to sit back, and none of the players were complaining about him not playing the 4th line. So who knows.
 
Unfortunately I see this happening, but not because of a bigger plan to avoid Edmonton. My best guess is that after how last season ended, this team core quits on Hiller by Christmas. I hope I am wrong.
And then Holland hires his desired Coach, and they either miss the playoffs, or they go on a tear and a deep playoff run, we’ve seen both here.
 
I’d be surprised if they do. After all, the consensus by the players after their 1st round exit again was that Hiller didn’t order them to sit back, and none of the players were complaining about him not playing the 4th line. So who knows.
None of them were complaining about not playing the 4th line? Maybe to the extend that they weren't complaining publicly to the media but they were definitely complaining. There is a reason Hiller finally started playing them towards the end of the series.

Also, if we believe the rumors, not playing the bottom pairing is why Spence voiced his concerns leading to his trade.
 
I’d be surprised if they do. After all, the consensus by the players after their 1st round exit again was that Hiller didn’t order them to sit back, and none of the players were complaining about him not playing the 4th line. So who knows.
I'm unconvinced. Did Hiller order them to attack and they consciously disobeyed? I'm skeptical of that. The only concrete thing I know is that Hiller's decisions prevented a critical win.
 
Maybe they were gassed because Hiller decided to hamstring himself by using two thirds of the roster spots that the NHL allows. A team that uses 18 skaters has a distinct advantage over one that stubbornly uses 13.

I tend to agree with this view. Players don't want to throw Hiller under the bus (yet?), so I'm inclined that the team is in agreement that there just wasn't enough viable talent and/or playoff experienced players to match up well enough against Edmonton. I guess it's a bit of a specific issue with this matchup, as EDM often tries to put McDrai against opposing teams' 4th lines to exploit them.

This would also explain why the Kings' play dropped off significantly in the later stages of the matchup and why Ken went in and brought 4 experienced players to play bottom 6 and 2nd/3rd pairings. On paper, the Kings added considerable depth and PO experience, defensive prowess and sacrificed very little for this. The biggest issue I see is age of added players to add to an alreay aging team and what this team will look like on ice in 2-3 years...this win-now approach WILL have its cost I'm afraid.
 
I tend to agree with this view. Players don't want to throw Hiller under the bus (yet?), so I'm inclined that the team is in agreement that there just wasn't enough viable talent and/or playoff experienced players to match up well enough against Edmonton. I guess it's a bit of a specific issue with this matchup, as EDM often tries to put McDrai against opposing teams' 4th lines to exploit them.

This would also explain why the Kings' play dropped off significantly in the later stages of the matchup and why Ken went in and brought 4 experienced players to play bottom 6 and 2nd/3rd pairings. On paper, the Kings added considerable depth and PO experience, defensive prowess and sacrificed very little for this. The biggest issue I see is age of added players to add to an alreay aging team and what this team will look like on ice in 2-3 years...this win-now approach WILL have its cost I'm afraid.
Aside from losing our best defenseman and one of the few puck movers that we had on defense, little was lost. The only possible justification is that the Kings blueline prospect pool is so depleted for the next 2-3 years that Holland figured he'd extend the bottom pair for an extended duration so that he wouldn't have to waste a future summer signing some other pylons.

This guy gets it: It's Not the Taxes -- It's the LA Kings

Prime free agents are not going to want to come here and play boring ass hockey.
 
I'm unconvinced. Did Hiller order them to attack and they consciously disobeyed? I'm skeptical of that. The only concrete thing I know is that Hiller's decisions prevented a critical win.
Players were “good soldiers” and circled the wagons around Hiller. Trust your eyes. All the players went into a defensive shell. What person makes decisions that affect all players? The coach… Hiller failed miserably.
 
None of them were complaining about not playing the 4th line? Maybe to the extend that they weren't complaining publicly to the media but they were definitely complaining. There is a reason Hiller finally started playing them towards the end of the series.

Also, if we believe the rumors, not playing the bottom pairing is why Spence voiced his concerns leading to his trade.
Not even a rumor. Holland said it a few times.

It’ll be very interesting to see who long Hiller’s leash is next season.
 

"while there were rumblings the Kings had a strong trade on the table for Andersson, it doesn't sound like there is mutual interest from Andersson in playing for the Kings."

No one of consequence wants to play for LA, just scrubs and a few aging veterans. This team is doomed.
 

"while there were rumblings the Kings had a strong trade on the table for Andersson, it doesn't sound like there is mutual interest from Andersson in playing for the Kings."

No one of consequence wants to play for LA, just scrubs and a few aging veterans. This team is doomed.
We have been watching the Kings turn into the Angels. The only difference is having 2 championship rings…
 
Maybe they were gassed because Hiller decided to hamstring himself by using two thirds of the roster spots that the NHL allows. A team that uses 18 skaters has a distinct advantage over one that stubbornly uses 13.
This is likely the correct answer. The Oilers were pushing and the Kings were tired. Cannot make plays when you are tired.
 

"while there were rumblings the Kings had a strong trade on the table for Andersson, it doesn't sound like there is mutual interest from Andersson in playing for the Kings."

No one of consequence wants to play for LA, just scrubs and a few aging veterans. This team is doomed.

It was the same before the two cups, but DL had assets and went the trade route to land the necessary players to win it all.
 
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