FIRE LUC

This is a new business model. Look at the LA Chargers and Las Vegas Raiders (plus the Rams to a smaller sample), both teams are blood money with half the crowd always for the visiting team.
Agreed.

It's like Danny B. and AEG cracked the $$$ code after Timmy and Deano were gone.

Why try to win to fill an arena with Kings fans when the arena fills up any way (win or lose) with expats/transplants.

It's such a niche sport in LA for full fan support when you are not winning.

However LA is so big that even when the Kings lose for a decade, and the non diehard fans stay home, there are plenty of expats/transplants to take their seats and spend that $$$$.
 
Purple/gold: YES
Purple/black or white: Please god, no. So ugly.
I sure hope color magically returns to the jerseys like Luc's monochromatic "vision" was a curse to be lifted. I'm a bit stubborn but the last jersey I bought was a forum blue in 2011 with Quick's name on it because I swore I'd never buy a black and white jersey (in hindsight I wish I got the black LA one with the 2012 patch as I was at the damn game for posterity but oh well).

I like Purple and Gold best too. However the players are always quoted as loving the Silver and Black. If the players prefer them that way, I'd think they should stay.
 
I like Purple and Gold best too. However the players are always quoted as loving the Silver and Black. If the players prefer them that way, I'd think they should stay.

The players are wrong or being forced to say such things.
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Remember, the players are all ‘young’ guys who have never known the Kings to be anything other than black/silver. At this point, even the purple/black days are ‘classics’ to them, and the purple/gold are essentially a novelty from myth and legend.
 
Unfortunately we have an owner who couldn't give 3 craps about the sport. As stated above its all about the money and as long as the team is making it, that is all that matters. Fortunately they believe to make money, you have to put it back into the team, which ownership has been great at. Choosing the right people to run this team is the problem. It is time for Luc to go, his record is pathetic, there is no road this team has a chance to win a Stanley Cup and his latest move was bringing a GM in who was in retirement, PLEASE!!

Getting Panarin was not going to put us over the top by any means, yet we gave up our best prospect on a team that currently has to have one of the worst farm systems in the league, except for goaltending. Yes the Reign lead their division, but are there any players that can really crack an NHL lineup? I think NOT. I see people trying to say what a great deal it was and that Greentree wasn't really that good, trying to justify the deal, for which I call BS. Now we have a aging superstar going to take up 11-12 million a year hit on our salary cap who over the next 2 years and will be 35 years old next season. Not taking anything away from Panarin, who has looking good on the scoreboard, but its not equating in the win column.

The decision to stay with Hiller was ridiculous, it is obvious he is a coach who did not believe in young players and he almost single handedly put Clarke's career in the toilet and got him traded and I will be interested to see how Byfield starts playing without the Hiller handcuffs.

This team needs to find a way to get in young high talent players away from the draft, this may be taking shots on other teams rejects, many times a change of scenery or coaching can be the difference. I think we have some pretty good ex players manning our development department. Just curious would you have given up a 6th round pick for Lukas Reichel former 17th overall pick in 2020 and only 23 years old like the Boston Bruins did? When was the last 6th round pick we had make an impact? These type of players are out there, get the scouting and development departs together and go find a couple
I agree with it all...
 
Getting Panarin was not going to put us over the top by any means, yet we gave up our best prospect on a team that currently has to have one of the worst farm systems in the league, except for goaltending. Yes the Reign lead their division, but are there any players that can really crack an NHL lineup? I think NOT. I see people trying to say what a great deal it was and that Greentree wasn't really that good, trying to justify the deal, for which I call BS. Now we have a aging superstar going to take up 11-12 million a year hit on our salary cap who over the next 2 years and will be 35 years old next season. Not taking anything away from Panarin, who has looking good on the scoreboard, but its not equating in the win column.

Apologies for the necropost, but I didn't want to reply hastily while I was still excited about getting Panarin. But after a few weeks, it is clear that he is one of the Kings best forwards, if not the best, and was a great pickup.

Also, just because Greentree was the Kings best skater prospect does not mean he was a top prospect. I'd rather have Panarin locking down a spot on the top line for 2 years than Greentree. We can sign or trade for a middle-6 winger rather easily. There's teams with good prospects who will come in and make an impact and then there's the Kings. We don't draft well at the top and the player development doesn't seem to do very well.

Also, thumbs up to getting rid of Luc. Not only is the on-ice product bad but the giveaways are crap and the arena experience is embarrassing for the "entertainment capital of the world".
 
Apologies for the necropost, but I didn't want to reply hastily while I was still excited about getting Panarin. But after a few weeks, it is clear that he is one of the Kings best forwards, if not the best, and was a great pickup.

Also, just because Greentree was the Kings best skater prospect does not mean he was a top prospect. I'd rather have Panarin locking down a spot on the top line for 2 years than Greentree. We can sign or trade for a middle-6 winger rather easily. There's teams with good prospects who will come in and make an impact and then there's the Kings. We don't draft well at the top and the player development doesn't seem to do very well.

Also, thumbs up to getting rid of Luc. Not only is the on-ice product bad but the giveaways are crap and the arena experience is embarrassing for the "entertainment capital of the world".
I agree, Panarin is by far our best forward currently and the gap is pretty large. Giving up Greentree hurts, but this was a big win for the Kings.

I do think Greentree is a top prospect, and will show it once he gets to the NHL. Years down the road we will be wishing we had him on the team, but even Panarin towards the end of his career is better than any Kings acquisition I can think of over the past 10 years.

I also wouldn't be surpised if Panarin signs another NHL contract after this one. His game just doesn't seem like one that will fade anytime soon.

Also agree on Luc, he should have been canned seasons ago.
 
Officially and genuinely sad. Thanks for the memories Kopitar.. as a Kings fan since 1988 (basically as a 7 year old kid hearing about "The Trade" and learning what the heck Hockey was), that run from 2011-2014 were the best years.
 
I agree, Panarin is by far our best forward currently and the gap is pretty large. Giving up Greentree hurts, but this was a big win for the Kings.

I do think Greentree is a top prospect, and will show it once he gets to the NHL. Years down the road we will be wishing we had him on the team, but even Panarin towards the end of his career is better than any Kings acquisition I can think of over the past 10 years.

I also wouldn't be surpised if Panarin signs another NHL contract after this one. His game just doesn't seem like one that will fade anytime soon.

Also agree on Luc, he should have been canned seasons ago.
I said it before and I'll say it now, Panarin was not the right fit for this team. The Kings were not positioned correctly to add him to their lineup. The Kings needed a lot more and by adding him, it did not change the outcome in a weak Pacific Division.

Adding Panarin was not going to get them past any team in the playoffs. With him they barely snuck in. The right fit would have been adding him to Tampa Bay or Buffalo, teams that are already good, that he could take to the next level. Now, he will flounder in a Kings uniform until he is traded. The Kings need a total rebuild, however, Holland will keep putting bandaids on this team until he leaves in two years. For Kings fans, these next two seasons will be brutal. After two years, we get to live through the total rebuild with a new GM. At least we will know what direction they are taking. You are right, it would have been nice to have Greentree in 2-3 years on this team.
 
I said it before and I'll say it now, Panarin was not the right fit for this team. The Kings were not positioned correctly to add him to their lineup. The Kings needed a lot more and by adding him, it did not change the outcome in a weak Pacific Division.

Adding Panarin was not going to get them past any team in the playoffs. With him they barely snuck in. The right fit would have been adding him to Tampa Bay or Buffalo, teams that are already good, that he could take to the next level. Now, he will flounder in a Kings uniform until he is traded. The Kings need a total rebuild, however, Holland will keep putting bandaids on this team until he leaves in two years. For Kings fans, these next two seasons will be brutal. After two years, we get to live through the total rebuild with a new GM. At least we will know what direction they are taking. You are right, it would have been nice to have Greentree in 2-3 years on this team.
From a strategic standpoint, adding Panarin is more about attracting outside talent than it is adding a band-aid. If the addition of Panarin fails to attract talent, then the deal ends up being much more one dimensional, but I am pretty certain he was brought on with a goal of building the future roster rather than just putting up points for a few seasons.

When I look at the moves Holland has made thus far, I am confident that the Kings will be better next season than there were this season.

I do think the farewell seasons, first for Kopi and later for Doughty, will be our worst seasons due to the nostalgia of playing a player on a line / in a position in which they no longer belong. Also silly moves like playing Laf at center (especially as L1 center), Armia on the top line, Laughton on PP1 are hopefully behind us.

Looking at next season, we have 4 forwards that can be considered top 6 (Laf and TO remain 3rd liners, imo, with potential to grow). That leaves us a need for, at minimum, a 2nd line wing and center (1st line Center being the stretch goal). Then we need to look at fit, as you mentioned. I'm assuming by fit you meant window, which we know Panarin's is short, but we still have a void in regards to who fits with Fiala and ultimately if we can find a right handed center that fits with Panarin. On D, we have a void as to who fits with one of either Ceci of Dum. This doesn't even consider upgrades we would ultimately like to see.

Fixing the above already catapults us forward, and, outside of a potential right handed L1 center, these are all moves Holland can pull off (hopefully without trading any draft picks as realistically we have roster players with enough value to move in order to pull these off).

That then gives us a 3rd line comprised of a combo of TO/Laf/Armia/Kuz/Laughton/Turcotte/Wright which should be able to contribute some goals while playing a decent two-way game.

Lee looks ready to come up and join the 4th line as an upgrade - which, beyond size, we also need to see more scoring from. Helenius projects to be better next season, with the third spot on the line TBD.

In goal, Keumper is likely gone which takes us a step back, but seems managable until one of our top tier goalie prospects are ready to come up.

People can argue this is not a playoff roster, or is a step back, but it will depend on who fills the open slots. What we cannot continue to have is 3rd/4th liners filling 2nd/3rd (sometimes even 1st) line roles next season.

I like the direction Holland is taking the team.

I do agree with you, though, on Greentree. That one does hurt.
 
Glad I went to the game yesterday, even though I got the lopsided loss I was anticipating.

While I will miss Kopitar, the fact is that he is spent. If they go with Byfield between Panarin and Kempe next year, it will likely be a more effective line. Would probably take some of the pressure off of Byfield too.

Hopefully Laughton wants to stay. If not, I think Kenny Connors will probably fill his role on the 3rd line.

The main issue is the defensive pairings, which Holland made significantly worse. I don't see how Holland can fix the problem he created. I doubt he even sees it as a problem.

If they let Luc go (and they should), they should let everyone else go. Holland, Emerson, Murray, the coaching staff, maybe even Yanetti. No holdovers. Just let the new President select his management team and coaching staff and go from there.

Unlike some others, I don't see the prospect pool as empty. There are some very good goaltending and defensive prospects in the system. We are very thin at top-6 winger prospects, but the main club has enough of those for now. Center prospects begin and end with Connors, so it's going to have to be a focus in the next couple of drafts.
 
From a strategic standpoint, adding Panarin is more about attracting outside talent than it is adding a band-aid. If the addition of Panarin fails to attract talent, then the deal ends up being much more one dimensional, but I am pretty certain he was brought on with a goal of building the future roster rather than just putting up points for a few seasons.

When I look at the moves Holland has made thus far, I am confident that the Kings will be better next season than there were this season.

I do think the farewell seasons, first for Kopi and later for Doughty, will be our worst seasons due to the nostalgia of playing a player on a line / in a position in which they no longer belong. Also silly moves like playing Laf at center (especially as L1 center), Armia on the top line, Laughton on PP1 are hopefully behind us.

Looking at next season, we have 4 forwards that can be considered top 6 (Laf and TO remain 3rd liners, imo, with potential to grow). That leaves us a need for, at minimum, a 2nd line wing and center (1st line Center being the stretch goal). Then we need to look at fit, as you mentioned. I'm assuming by fit you meant window, which we know Panarin's is short, but we still have a void in regards to who fits with Fiala and ultimately if we can find a right handed center that fits with Panarin. On D, we have a void as to who fits with one of either Ceci of Dum. This doesn't even consider upgrades we would ultimately like to see.

Fixing the above already catapults us forward, and, outside of a potential right handed L1 center, these are all moves Holland can pull off (hopefully without trading any draft picks as realistically we have roster players with enough value to move in order to pull these off).

That then gives us a 3rd line comprised of a combo of TO/Laf/Armia/Kuz/Laughton/Turcotte/Wright which should be able to contribute some goals while playing a decent two-way game.

Lee looks ready to come up and join the 4th line as an upgrade - which, beyond size, we also need to see more scoring from. Helenius projects to be better next season, with the third spot on the line TBD.

In goal, Keumper is likely gone which takes us a step back, but seems managable until one of our top tier goalie prospects are ready to come up.

People can argue this is not a playoff roster, or is a step back, but it will depend on who fills the open slots. What we cannot continue to have is 3rd/4th liners filling 2nd/3rd (sometimes even 1st) line roles next season.

I like the direction Holland is taking the team.

I do agree with you, though, on Greentree. That one does hurt.
I hope you are right. I just don't believe Panarin moves the pendulum in acquiring outside talent. Last summer's upgrades by Holland were Ceci, Dumo and Armia. Most of LGK lost their minds when they heard of these signings. When the Rangers traded Panarin, their point or win total was around what the Kings was at that time. The Rangers wanted to get rid of Panarin as quick as possible, as the team was floundering. Isn't his wife an actress or something in show business. I believe that played a big role in him signing here. I never believed he was going to change this team into a second-round team.

I also saw nothing out of Kempe, Panarin in the playoffs. Yes, they scored 3 PP goals between them, less than a goal a game, however, they played a lot more five on five, than they did with a man advantage. They were badly outplayed and that goes for the entire team. The one part of Panarin's game I do like, is his ability to fling the puck toward the net from just inside the blueline. You had two big time players making big time money and they fell flat when they made it into the big dance. So that concerns me more than anything.

If the goal is to compete for the cup, the Kings are not even close. Barely making the playoffs when you add a player like Panarin, and then getting swept, I would rather have a prospect playing in the minors and having at least the potential of playing in the NHL, than to squeak in, (in the worst division in hockey) and getting swept by adding an 11-million-dollar player. And that is why I did not believe he was a good fit for the Kings.

The most glaring statistic is Darcy keeping the Kings in the playoff picture by stealing all of those regulation ties early on, before he got hit by that Rat on Dallas. He was obviously not the same when he came back and that is when those ties turned into losses in regulation. I believe he would have been the Canadian Olympic goalie if he would have not been hit, as he was having an incredible year, keeping the Kings in the playoff hunt with those ties. Luckily for the Kings, he had built up enough pity points to overcome the second half of the season. I don't see that happening next season and those regulation ties they had this season, will most likely become regulation losses and that takes them far from the playoffs.

Next season, I believe the Ducks and Sharks will be a lock for the playoffs. What other team will the Kings beat out to make it in. Vegas, Edmonton or even Seattle? And throw in the Flames as well.
 
On the latest 32 Thoughts Freidman said a lot of teams are going to try and make big trades this offseason and there are going to be some disappointed fanbases when their GMs couldn’t do more. There are only so many players that will be available.

We can only wait and see. Ducks are significantly ahead of the Sharks. They also have a serious trade chip in McTavish. He is not a top 6 center on the Ducks yet he should be considered that on another team. Verbeek traded the right young players in Zegras and Drysdale to actually improve the roster. I think he’ll do it again.

Sharks clearly have young pieces to trade, but they need more help than the Ducks do, especially on defense.

SEA and CAL both need to decide whether they are stepping back to rebuild or continue to try and be a playoff team. Talking central, the same applies to NSH and StL.

I believe there is a potential for the Kings to improve but it is going to require a truly deft touch by Holland and even some luck. Gauthier wanted out of PHI for example just as Panarin wanted to be a King. Long way to go until June.
 

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