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McDavid's cap hit next season is $12.5MM. If Edmonton doesn't think they can re-sign him after next season or extend him again, they are going to have to trade him so they can get something back. I'd imagine Edmonton would have to keep some of that cap hit to make the trade a bit less painful, but how in the wide wide world of hockey could the Kings afford him?
Kopi will be off the books in a year, who knows with Dewey. IF you can get a generational player, you find a way to do it. If EDM can carry McD and Drai and their contracts, the Kings can surely afford McD. Do I think it will happen, no.
 
The two key factors at play (I think) are Luc related.

1) Trust. Luc is putting his Kings career on the line with this hire. If this GM fails he’s taking Luc with him. The next GM will be someone Luc has an established working relationship because there’s very little runway left to get this plane off the ground and into the 2nd round.

2) Experience. Luc doesn’t have time to wait for a first time GM to learn on the job. The next GM will be someone who knows exactly what is required of the job on day 1. There is quite literally no time to waste with the draft and free agency less than 60 days away.

The Kings are in a bind because of the time crunch and because the list of above replacement level candidates is pretty thin at the moment. I’m expecting Holland to get the job, trade out of the 1st round and make a splash in free agency. I also expect Greentree and one of the top goalies in our system to be moved in a deal for a young D man. I wonder if Owen Power is available…
Greentree is the one forward prospect in the organization you don’t trade. One of the three young goalies? Sure. Add Portillo or George to a package that includes roster players, not the Kings best offensive prospect. A stud d’man doesn’t come cheap. But let Greentree show his value at the NHL level before flushing him away at far less that he may be worth.
 
Greentree is the one forward prospect in the organization you don’t trade. One of the three young goalies? Sure. Add Portillo or George to a package that includes roster players, not the Kings best offensive prospect. A stud d’man doesn’t come cheap. But let Greentree show his value at the NHL level before flushing him away at far less that he may be worth.
Greentree is a prospect until he’s not. Scoring ability in Junior does not always translate to the NHL.

That said, that is a player I wouldn’t deal unless it’s a Home Run deal that nets us a superstar.
 
Greentree is a prospect until he’s not. Scoring ability in Junior does not always translate to the NHL.

That said, that is a player I wouldn’t deal unless it’s a Home Run deal that nets us a superstar.
100%. Prospects are just prospects. Greentree is only untouchable to Kings fans because the cupboard is so bare. He's a very solid prospect but not a top-25 guy,
 
Greentree is a prospect until he’s not. Scoring ability in Junior does not always translate to the NHL.

That said, that is a player I wouldn’t deal unless it’s a Home Run deal that nets us a superstar.
Last September, Greentree showed he had the ability to make a difference on a scoring challenged NHL team. I fully expect him to be a keeper this year. And at 6’ 3” and 215 lbs he is already one of your beloved big strapping bodies. His +55 for the Spitfires shows he plays on both sides of the puck. I agree you only deal him on a trade for a #1 defenseman.
 
Last September, Greentree showed he had the ability to make a difference on a scoring challenged NHL team. I fully expect him to be a keeper this year. And at 6’ 3” and 215 lbs he is already one of your beloved big strapping bodies. His +55 for the Spitfires shows he plays on both sides of the puck. I agree you only deal him on a trade for a #1 defenseman.
Hopefully new Gm will have more philosophy and will do a complete interview with Hiller and let him know 90% defense and 10% offensive style is no longer our style. He was outcoached by bv the coach Holland hired, thought that was interesting and that he drafted Broberg a mobile left handed defenseman, when the last time the Kings did that
 
The Kings are in a bind because of the time crunch and because the list of above replacement level candidates is pretty thin at the moment. I’m expecting Holland to get the job, trade out of the 1st round and make a splash in free agency. I also expect Greentree and one of the top goalies in our system to be moved in a deal for a young D man. I wonder if Owen Power is available…

This is sadly a very realistic scenario...

100%. Prospects are just prospects. Greentree is only untouchable to Kings fans because the cupboard is so bare. He's a very solid prospect but not a top-25 guy,

Oh please. As far as prospects go he's just about the closest to exactly what the Kings need ASAP in ther roster.

It's not that he's untouchable per se. He's untouchable because there's no way a team takes him and a 1st for a legitimate, established, young top 2 D-man. But Liam DOES have potential and now also a very promising development curve to be a legitimate, long term top 6 forward that's going to be cost controlled for the next 5, 6 years at least, making it possible to acquire a top 2 D-man in other ways, IF a capable GM takes the reigns of this team.

Considering the emergence of QB and Laf, I think it would be wise to take a chance at a little bit of a question mark instead of using him as a trade bait in an overpayment package...
 
It's not that he's untouchable per se. He's untouchable because there's no way a team takes him and a 1st for a legitimate, established, young top 2 D-man. But Liam DOES have potential and now also a very promising development curve to be a legitimate, long term top 6 forward that's going to be cost controlled for the next 5, 6 years at least, making it possible to acquire a top 2 D-man in other ways, IF a capable GM takes the reigns of this team.
The Kevin Fiala trade seems like a likely template for a deal where the Kings pick up a ~25 year old D man coming off a break out season who either recently signed a big extension or is ready for his big extension and maybe his current team isn’t completely sold on that type of investment. Or maybe they paid him early and can see a better fit elsewhere.

Maybe soon to be 24 year old pending RFA Bowen Byrum can be had for the right package. I’m sure Buffalo could use a productive 20 goal winger like Trevor Moore. If they love defensive analytics there aren’t many better than Jordan Spence…
 
100%. Prospects are just prospects. Greentree is only untouchable to Kings fans because the cupboard is so bare. He's a very solid prospect but not a top-25 guy,
Neither was Luc. Not that I'm insinuating he will be Luc type player but there is definitely a solid player there.
 
Kopi will be off the books in a year, who knows with Dewey. IF you can get a generational player, you find a way to do it. If EDM can carry McD and Drai and their contracts, the Kings can surely afford McD. Do I think it will happen, no.
If the Kings sign McDavid and Kemp stays, Kempe is going to score 50 goals. Kuz-McDavid-Kempe
Who would be 2C? Kopi or QB?
 
If the Kings sign McDavid and Kemp stays, Kempe is going to score 50 goals. Kuz-McDavid-Kempe
Who would be 2C? Kopi or QB?

There is no McD without QB going back...unless you think McD will reach UFA status, which is IMO impossible.

But just to humor you, Kopi would definitely have to be a 3C.
 
There is no McD without QB going back...unless you think McD will reach UFA status, which is IMO impossible.

But just to humor you, Kopi would definitely have to be a 3C.
Yeah I thought about that after I posted. QB would have to be part of a deal.

So who is the 2C?
 
I’m expecting Holland to get the job, trade out of the 1st round and make a splash in free agency. I also expect Greentree and one of the top goalies in our system to be moved in a deal for a young D man. I wonder if Owen Power is available…
Trading Greentree and one of the goalies is exactly what I don’t want to see happen this summer.

I am one of those who sees six high end young players on this team with high end prospects as just mentioned on their way pretty soon. This team is close now but has real potential for sustained success starting just 2 years from now. That is if new GM secures a top 6 center. I’ve warmed up to a mobile LD over Gavrikov also, especially for the money, but that will answer itself soon enough.

My ideal trade package for LD is Moore, a first this year, and Dvorak. Trade Dvorak now while his value is higher if an LD is coming back, otherwise gotta keep him around.
There is no McD without QB going back...unless you think McD will reach UFA status, which is IMO impossible.

But just to humor you, Kopi would definitely have to be a 3C.
I don’t think McDavid reaching UFA is impossible at all. I actually think a trade is much more impossible.

If the Oilers don’t get it done this year, they’ll have reasons to point to. They will go all-in on another run with him and see what happens. They’ll have Ekholm back and will absolutely upgrade in goal this summer. Unfortunately, I think they have a good chance next year of finally winning given what they’re pulling off without those pieces. But if they are still Cupless, he could easily go UFA if he chooses.
 
Elliotte Friedman confirms Ken Holland is in the mix.

 
Yeah I thought about that after I posted. QB would have to be part of a deal.

So who is the 2C?

IMO Kopitar and Turcotte/Thomas would be the 2/3 Cs, depending on the matchup and health situations. I assume Danault would have to be shipped due to cap concerns.

Ahh...pipe dreams.

Trading Greentree and one of the goalies is exactly what I don’t want to see happen this summer.

I am one of those who sees six high end young players on this team with high end prospects as just mentioned on their way pretty soon. This team is close now but has real potential for sustained success starting just 2 years from now. That is if new GM secures a top 6 center. I’ve warmed up to a mobile LD over Gavrikov also, especially for the money, but that will answer itself soon enough.

My ideal trade package for LD is Moore, a first this year, and Dvorak. Trade Dvorak now while his value is higher if an LD is coming back, otherwise gotta keep him around.

I don’t think McDavid reaching UFA is impossible at all. I actually think a trade is much more impossible.

If the Oilers don’t get it done this year, they’ll have reasons to point to. They will go all-in on another run with him and see what happens. They’ll have Ekholm back and will absolutely upgrade in goal this summer. Unfortunately, I think they have a good chance next year of finally winning given what they’re pulling off without those pieces. But if they are still Cupless, he could easily go UFA if he chooses.

I'm pretty sure George or Slukynsky would have to be traded if the new GM wants to actually improve this team in a meaningful sense. It's a position that only needs one of the young goalies to develop into a proper #1 and having three talented young goalies where only two will have a proper chance to prove themselves (especially if the Kings want to go forward without rebuild/retool) means that one will eventually walk for nothing and one traded for a likely lesser return (a semi-proven goalie is IMO worth considerably less than a highly touted goalie prospect, unless the Kings really struck gold and two of them play out of their minds from the get go).

My money is on George getting traded, since Portillo has probably very little value at this point.


Re. McDavid: Edmonton simply can't afford to let him walk for nothing. IMO if they don't win it all this season they would have quite a bit easier time "selling" the idea of trading McD for a ransom to their fans, especially if McD expresses any concerns about his future with them publicly. One thing that is much worse than your star generational talent getting traded for a ransom is letting him walk for nothing. I think they would burn the city down if that happens.
 
Trading Greentree and one of the goalies is exactly what I don’t want to see happen this summer.

I am one of those who sees six high end young players on this team with high end prospects as just mentioned on their way pretty soon. This team is close now but has real potential for sustained success starting just 2 years from now. That is if new GM secures a top 6 center. I’ve warmed up to a mobile LD over Gavrikov also, especially for the money, but that will answer itself soon enough.

My ideal trade package for LD is Moore, a first this year, and Dvorak. Trade Dvorak now while his value is higher if an LD is coming back, otherwise gotta keep him around.
I think it’s very likely a mistake to trade Greentree unless you’re getting a 1st line/1st pair guy under the age of 30 in return. The organization is in win now mode and desperate to get past the 1st round. Desperation is exactly what leads to stupid short-sighted deals. I expect the next GM to fully lean into the stupidity.

My guess is there’s a scenario where Byfield is on the table in exchange for someone who is already established as a 1st line Center. Names that come to mind are Tage Thompson, Nico Hischier, Elias Lindholm, Dylan Larkin, Sam Reinhart. Not saying any of them are available but if you dangle a 22 year old 20 minute a night Center with room for growth I think you’ll get some GMs to call you back and that’s what Holland or whoever the next Kings GM will be counting on.
 
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