Kings Trade for Tanner Jeannot

[Earl]

I like the trade as I'm sick of seeing Kempe and Fiala first in on scrums and now we have a guy who will let the other teams know no more of that. I'll call him a more aggressive Grundstrom and he's hard to play against as you know when he hops over the boards the other team knows and we haven't had that since Lemieux who when he played on the line and not over was effective for us.

And if the rumors of us being in on Dillon are true that solves the grit issue nicely and Englund can slot in when we need him. I know he's not liked on here but last year he was the only guy to step up and protect the teammates. It concerns me that Clarke got hit ALOT in the AHL so you have to find somewhat to protect the kid and having Jeannot and a Dillon type IMO does that nicely.

 

[ICE24]

I'll let everyone know how the trade works out by April of 2025. Just be patient, my expert analysis is only 10 months away.

 

[DryKing]

Reports are that Jeannot has lost a step after repeated injuries.

Through the 21-22 season Jeannot had a shooting percentage of over 20%. That was not sustainable. The next two years with the Preds and Bolts his shooting percentage dropped to 5%.

If you watch how Jeannot scored his goals, he scored them while driving the net. Not camping out in front of the net. They were either tip-ins on outnumber breaks, deflections or rebounds as he was skating by. A few were scored while camped out in front.

In 21-22 Jeannot was able to be effective when he was playing with Sissions and Trenin, He was hot, lucky and had a shooting percentage over 20%. He was not the same player in 22-23 when playing with Sissions and Trenin/Duchene. The Preds did not waste any time and got rid of him. After the trade his struggles continued in Tampa that year. The next year saw similar stats. Both of those years in Tampa he was healthy scratched from games during the playoffs. Jeannot has not been the same player (on the Preds, or Lightning) since that 21-22 season.

Somehow Blake thinks the Kings are going to get more out of him? I am not so sure. PLD came here and had arguably one of his worst seasons. PLD was pretty much on top of his game before the trade. Jeannot, is not at the top of his game and has not been for 2 seasons.

I get that we need this type of player. If we get the 21-22 version of Jeannot then that will probably be fine. However, if we get the latest version of Jeannot, the one that Preds and Lightning fans grew to hate. The one were they wanted him traded away for a bag of pucks. Well, that probably will not be fine.

Good, insightful summary, thank you for posting this.

My thoughts are that Blake plans to suit up several rookies and need a player who will help ensure they are not physically taken advantage of. That said, I don't think Jeannot was acquired to put up points (though it would be nice if he did). The question will be, can he avoid taking bad penalties.

In terms of what we gave up to get him, the most sizable thing was next years second and cap space. Realistically next seasons second rounder may turn into a NHL player in 1-4 years, or potentially never, to which we get a NHL caliber player, in exchange, which we know can suit up today. From a cap perspective, Jeannot is likely overpaid at $2.665M next season but if he helps our rookies develop (by protecting them and not allowing other teams to take liberties) and chips in some quality minutes then it's really a small price to pay.

I strongly dislike Blake's propensity to trade 1st and 2nd round picks, but if we come into this situation with realistic expectations I really feel this is a good pickup even if Jeannot is not able to ever again put up the numbers he did in 21-22 (and I fully expect he will not).

 

[Statue4Deano]

Reports are that Jeannot has lost a step after repeated injuries.

Through the 21-22 season Jeannot had a shooting percentage of over 20%. That was not sustainable. The next two years with the Preds and Bolts his shooting percentage dropped to 5%.

He shot just under 12% last season playing most frequently on the 4th line next to Luke Glendening who had 1 assist in 81 gp. And Tyler Motte who had 9 points in 69 gp.

His career shooting percentage is about 13%.

 

[symbology]

He shot just under 12% last season playing most frequently on the 4th line next to Luke Glendening who had 1 assist in 81 gp. And Tyler Motte who had 9 points in 69 gp.

His career shooting percentage is about 13%.

Yeah, he had a bump up this last year.

Are you trying to say that Jon Cooper, a coach that has one the Stanley Cup in 2 of the last 5 seasons does not know how to use his players?

You can expect him to return to 21-22 form,or close to it. However, I personally am not expecting that. From reading up on Jeannot, I can believe that over the last 2 years at least 90% of the forum posts out there that discuss Jeannot are not favorable. Taking that into consideration along with his stats, I just cannot see what you see in this trade.

Again, it is not like he was fine on the Preds, then was bad on TBL. He was bad the last year on the Preds, they traded him and he has been bad ever since.

 

[DarkLeftHand]

Good, insightful summary, thank you for posting this.

My thoughts are that Blake plans to suit up several rookies and need a player who will help ensure they are not physically taken advantage of. That said, I don't think Jeannot was acquired to put up points (though it would be nice if he did). The question will be, can he avoid taking bad penalties.

In terms of what we gave up to get him, the most sizable thing was next years second and cap space. Realistically next seasons second rounder may turn into a NHL player in 1-4 years, or potentially never, to which we get a NHL caliber player, in exchange, which we know can suit up today. From a cap perspective, Jeannot is likely overpaid at $2.665M next season but if he helps our rookies develop (by protecting them and not allowing other teams to take liberties) and chips in some quality minutes then it's really a small price to pay.

I strongly dislike Blake's propensity to trade 1st and 2nd round picks, but if we come into this situation with realistic expectations I really feel this is a good pickup even if Jeannot is not able to ever again put up the numbers he did in 21-22 (and I fully expect he will not).

Bad penalties? Yes, if they are Fiala type stick penalties, those I would deem bad, and I am vehemently opposed. If they are ferocious borderline type boarding, clips, and high hits against guys like McJesus, Drai, Bedard, and Eichel meant to send a message through 82 regular season games, I’m completely comfortable with that.

 

[DryKing]

Bad penalties? Yes, if they are Fiala type stick penalties, those I would deem bad, and I am vehemently opposed. If they are ferocious borderline type boarding, clips, and high hits against guys like McJesus, Drai, Bedard, and Eichel meant to send a message through 82 regular season games, I’m completely comfortable with that.

I am thinking more along the lines of penalties Lemieux used to take at inopportune times that stalled the Kings momentum instead of accelerating it - or worked to send any sort of message. When in such a role it is often difficult to know when to exercise control and when to push the limits. Hopefully Jeannot can do a good job of determining which path to pursue depending on the game and situation.

 

[DarkLeftHand]

I am thinking more along the lines of penalties Lemieux used to take at inopportune times that stalled the Kings momentum instead of accelerating it - or worked to send any sort of message. When in such a role it is often difficult to know when to exercise control and when to push the limits. Hopefully Jeannot can do a good job of determining which path to pursue depending on the game and situation.

Google jeannot vs McNabb, and watch the hit he lays on Eichel, right before McNabb challenges him as retribution. I don’t give a f*** if Jeannot never scores a single goal in a Kings uniform, if he’s doing that on a nightly basis.

 

[ArkyKingsFan]

Here is my .02 on the Jeannot deal. I believe he is being brought in to replace Grundstrom. Yes he makes about 1.1 mill per year more than Grundy but he brings a lot of stuff to the table that Grundy just was never going to.

Things like physical play( he had more than 100 hits than any other forward on the KIngs), fighting and protecting teammates and mebbe even some intimidation; something the Kings haven't had since Brownie retired.
(Well do I remember how much the enemy HATED when Brown took the ice....we need that again...)

In my mind all this is worth the extra money we are paying him as I feel these are attributes that the KIngs sorely need.
I look forward to seeing how Jeannot positively impacts the good guys going forward.

Just my .02

~ArkyKingsFan~

 

[symbology]

Bad penalties? Yes, if they are Fiala type stick penalties, those I would deem bad, and I am vehemently opposed. If they are ferocious borderline type boarding, clips, and high hits against guys like McJesus, Drai, Bedard, and Eichel meant to send a message through 82 regular season games, I’m completely comfortable with that.

How did you like the timing of some of the penalties that Lemieux took?

One of the knocks against Jeannot lately is timing of some of his "events".

 

[DarkLeftHand]

How did you like the timing of some of the penalties that Lemieux took?

One of the knocks against Jeannot lately is timing of some of his "events".

Not optimal at any time, but you know what I disliked even more? Watching this team shuffle off the ice with their tails between their legs in lopsided blowouts against Edmonton in round one. That sh*t makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[symbology]

Google jeannot vs McNabb, and watch the hit he lays on Eichel, right before McNabb challenges him as retribution. I don’t give a f*** if Jeannot never scores a single goal in a Kings uniform, if he’s doing that on a nightly basis.

It is not the lack of scoring that had TBL fans frustrated with him. That was part of it I am sure, but many TBL fans say he brings nothing to the table other than the physicality. In many ways on the ice he is a detriment to the team. Making costly mistakes, bad reads, bad plays.

Maybe they were just all voicing frustration out of how much the had to pay for him in the trade.

 

[DarkLeftHand]

It is not the lack of scoring that had TBL fans frustrated with him. That was part of it I am sure, but many TBL fans say he brings nothing to the table other than the physicality. In many ways on the ice he is a detriment to the team. Making costly mistakes, bad reads, bad plays.

Maybe they were just all voicing frustration out of how much the had to pay for him in the trade.

Unfortunately, we won’t know for several dull months..

 

[DryKing]

Google jeannot vs McNabb, and watch the hit he lays on Eichel, right before McNabb challenges him as retribution. I don’t give a f*** if Jeannot never scores a single goal in a Kings uniform, if he’s doing that on a nightly basis.

Agreed. Read up a bit higher in this thread and you will see that I said a very similar thing. His value won't be in regards to the points he produces.

 

[triplcrown]

This guy is a bottom-six player. It is not fair to expect much more from him.

He's had ONE 41-pt season, and NO OTHER season above 14 pts.

He will add grit and physicality to our bottom-6.

He will make us somewhat harder to play against.
But don't expect a top-6 player; That is not him.

Also, his style of play will give our PK some more icetime, fort sure.

I'm glad we got him. But I am not expecting the moon.
Just hard, physical defensive play, with a decent amount of offense (for a bottom-sixer).

And a good protector for our smaller players.

 

[Birdman]

Don’t give 2 licks about how many goals he scores.

He needs to hit people, play hard in front and in the corners, and stand up for his teammates. If he does those 3 things, any goals he scores is an absolute bonus.

 

[Rogie-Vachon]

• Traded to Tampa Bay by Nashville for Cal Foote, a 1st-round pick in the 2025 NHL Draft, 2nd-round pick in 2024 and 3rd-, 4th- and 5th-round picks in 2023, February 26, 2023.

Oof, that trade didn't work too well. Can see him as a replacement for Arvy on the 2nd line.

And people thought the PLD trade was bad.

Yikes Tampa!

 

[Statue4Deano]

Don’t give 2 licks about how many goals he scores.

He needs to hit people, play hard in front and in the corners, and stand up for his teammates. If he does those 3 things, any goals he scores is an absolute bonus.

Now what happens if you put a player like that into one of the empty wing slots next to Kopi/Byfield/Danault? Suddenly you’ve got someone who embraces the dirty work and isn’t worried about the punishment he’ll take in the home plate area of the ice. When he’s performed best at the NHL level he goes to the front of the net and in the slot and hunts the puck.

That’s the guy Tampa paid through the nose to acquire. He didn’t perform like that in TB. Can he do it for LA? Things will get very interesting if he does.

 

[symbology]

Now what happens if you put a player like that into one of the empty wing slots next to Kopi/Byfield/Danault? Suddenly you’ve got someone who embraces the dirty work and isn’t worried about the punishment he’ll take in the home plate area of the ice. When he’s performed best at the NHL level he goes to the front of the net and in the slot and hunts the puck.

That’s the guy Tampa paid through the nose to acquire. He didn’t perform like that in TB. Can he do it for LA? Things will get very interesting if he does.

From everything that I have read, this guy will be no where near the Kings top 6.

His rookie season he scored a lot in the first part of the season. Many lucky and fortunate goals. Towards the end of that year, his luck ran out and his scoring dropped. It has not been seen since.

I have been doing more reading up on Jeannot and I am convinced this was an absolutely idiotic trade.

Have a read at the link below.

Thread on Jeannot

The below are a few of the posts from the above thread.

 

[symbology]

The below is based on doing a fair amount of research on Jeannot.

• This guy had one good season where he over achieved.
• He gets traded at the deadline the next year (after sucking already) If he was that great, why would the Preds even offer him up? Tampa and Toronto got in a bidding war from him. TBL over paid big time.
• Tampa has him for a little over a year and dump him the first chance they get.

Now, on the Kings he is going to somehow be a different player? Sorry, but I do not see it at all.