QB in play?

VCRW said:
While I applaud your optimism, I believe we have seen enough to know he won't be in the top tier of NHL centers. The kid is very good, but his present skillset does not lift him to superstar status.
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Yeah, I think he will be a very solid NHLer...but not reach the expectations you would have of a number 2 pick.
 
SirJW said:
IF a trade with Edmonton happens you know Corey Perry will be part of the deal!
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I am still skeptical that the Kings with this current roster can win a playoff series. Every avenue to elevate the team’s status should be explored. But the Black Hole is pulling hard at these guys right now.
 
VCRW said:
I am still skeptical that the Kings with this current roster can win a playoff series. Every avenue to elevate the team’s status should be explored. But the Black Hole is pulling hard at these guys right now.
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There are a couple things that give me hope, but I may be kidding myself. But, these things corollate to playoff performance:

1. Better goaltending than last year.
2. An impressive home record

But then again, there are things such as Moore's and Byfield's overall numbers/performance that give me more anxiety than last year. Bottle line, more first round exits will eventually spell the removal of management, which would shake up the team and perhaps give a jolt to where this team is at.
 
Clif said:
Next year Kings have a number one center in Q who will hopefully resemble the player of the last few games on a consistent basis. First year back at center was always going to be an adjustment this season.

But yeah, there two 3C’s after that. This is why the PLD trade made sense in theory. And since it didn’t work the aim of that trade is still unresolved.

I don’t mind overpaying for Sam Bennett in free agency, even if Blake had to trade Danault. But Bennett is going to be popular.
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I swore to myself that I’d never think about PLD again once Blake traded him but to see him go to Washington and produce more than any Center on the Kings it just pisses me off even more.
 
This is the first year when I officially became dubious of QB's potential. I am not saying trade away, but he doesn't seem untouchable in the way that say someone like Kopi would have been in his prime. ;)
 
Statue4Deano said:
He’s already the #1 Center on this team. He plays more minutes than Kopi and he’s out pointed Kopi 15 to 7 since Jan 1.
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But he is so far behind where Kopi was at 22. Q may be the de facto 1C on this team, but he would not have that role on any of the other current playoff teams. I love the kid but I don’t believe he is enough to carry a playoff series like the consensus top #1s have demonstrated.
 
VCRW said:
But he is so far behind where Kopi was at 22. Q may be the de facto 1C on this team, but he would not have that role on any of the other current playoff teams. I love the kid but I don’t believe he is enough to carry a playoff series like the consensus top #1s have demonstrated.
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Kopi at 22 was in a system utilized during the Crawford-Terry Murray years which allowed Kopi to flourish offensively. QB frankly is currently in a system where the 200-foot game is more emphasized and offensive production is limited. I can understand your frustration with QB not living up to his potential but this is a certain something I have to point out here. Let's be real, not every center drafted in the league is going to be Gretzky, Crosby, Malkin, McDavid, or Yzerman. Trading QB away for a player who could quite likely end up even worse than him is a real bad take at this point.
 
Dr. Tran said:
Right. Just when he’s coming into his own as a #1 go to Center, they’re going to trade him away. For who? This is ridiculous & Kypreos is an idiot.
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Can’t deny it’d be the Kingsiest of Kings things to do, at this point.
 
JC6388LAKings said:
Kopi at 22 was in a system utilized during the Crawford-Terry Murray years which allowed Kopi to flourish offensively. QB frankly is currently in a system where the 200-foot game is more emphasized and offensive production is limited. I can understand your frustration with QB not living up to his potential but this is a certain something I have to point out here. Let's be real, not every center drafted in the league is going to be Gretzky, Crosby, Malkin, McDavid, or Yzerman. Trading QB away for a player who could quite likely end up even worse than him is a real bad take at this point.
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lol, really? Terry Murray? Mr. Home plate himself?
 
VCRW said:
But he is so far behind where Kopi was at 22. Q may be the de facto 1C on this team, but he would not have that role on any of the other current playoff teams. I love the kid but I don’t believe he is enough to carry a playoff series like the consensus top #1s have demonstrated.
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You nailed it. QB is the defacto #1 center through late Jan/feb SOLELY because Kopitar pulled his annual post-Christmas Houdini act. If you replaced either Colorado or Edmonton’s #1 center with QB, those teams would be so far out of a playoff race, they might just be challenging for a top five draft pick. If this persists, this team will be white knuckling it through mid April to squeak into the playoffs, with teams like Vancouver and Calgary breathing down their neck.
 
Statue4Deano said:
He’s already the #1 Center on this team. He plays more minutes than Kopi and he’s out pointed Kopi 15 to 7 since Jan 1.
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10 of his last 19 points came in 3 games, and I see a lot of goose eggs proliferating the stat sheet elsewhere. I’ll give you that one of the 3 point games was technically on Dec 28th, and Kopitar’s last multipoint game was Dec 29th, so it’s splitting hairs. Either way, neither of these guys is playing worthy of the #1 center spot on half the teams in the league.
 
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DarkLeftHand said:
lol, really? Terry Murray? Mr. Home plate himself?
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If you think Murray was limiting the team's offensive capabilities with his coaching style, well, Sutter has him beat in that category. Sure, he (Sutter) was able to bring us two Cups to show for it but the teams under him weren't exactly league-class in offensive production either.
 
JC6388LAKings said:
Kopi at 22 was in a system utilized during the Crawford-Terry Murray years which allowed Kopi to flourish offensively. QB frankly is currently in a system where the 200-foot game is more emphasized and offensive production is limited. I can understand your frustration with QB not living up to his potential but this is a certain something I have to point out here. Let's be real, not every center drafted in the league is going to be Gretzky, Crosby, Malkin, McDavid, or Yzerman. Trading QB away for a player who could quite likely end up even worse than him is a real bad take at this point.
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Murray’s heavily defensive system was the antithesis of offense. It had nothing to do with Crawford’s run and gun. Murray’s brand of hockey was rigid and extremely boring to watch. Q has far more freedom in Hiller’s system than Kopi had under either Murray or Sutter.
 
In about a couple of years, I went from the team is really solid down in the middle, to, um,....

I might have been overtly optimist. Even about PLD, haha.:noidea:
 
VCRW said:
Murray’s heavily defensive system was the antithesis of offense. It had nothing to do with Crawford’s run and gun. Murray’s brand of hockey was rigid and extremely boring to watch. Q has far more freedom in Hiller’s system than Kopi had under either Murray or Sutter.
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Thank you for taking the reins and handling that one for me. Didn’t have the energy to debate with revisionist history enthusiasts.
 
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