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Provorov staying in Columbus for 8.5M. Kings need to extend Gavrikov or they're screwed.
It isn't July 1 yet, but this is shaping up like a classic Kings spring-summer free agency.
 
Current mood: Remember the scene in the Godfather where they're planting the gun for Mikey and they say make sure they get it planted so he doesn't walk out of the bathroom with only his dick in his hands?
It feels like the Kings didn't get the gun planted.
The deal was sooooooo close in the spring when Gavi was firing his agent. Now... 🤮
 
DoubleMinor said:
Gavy-Agent had this go perfectly. With the Cap going up and a new GM the negotiating all worked in the favor of the player.
Gavy had an agent who works all the ways to maximize the value.
I would think at this point Gavy doesn’t stay for less than 8.5-9.
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Yeah my guess is that he is going to want at least 9.5. Like you said, he has an agent who is notorious for wanting to set ceiling. At this point, I hope the Kings walk away as the deal will also, no doubt, include a full NMC and term.
 
Maybe Holland can do a sign and trade with the Rags for Gavy,that’s who he is rumor to sign tomorrow on Free Agency Day.In return(wishful thinking) the Kings get Andre Miller(D) and a couple of prospects and or draft picks if he is unable to resign Gavrikov today.
 
Hockey53 said:
Maybe Holland can do a sign and trade with the Rags for Gavy,that’s who he is rumor to sign tomorrow on Free Agency Day.In return(wishful thinking) the Kings get Andre Miller(D) and a couple of prospects and or draft picks if he is unable to resign Gavrikov today.
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I would love for the Kings to file tampering charges against the Rangers, but Gavrikov’s agent is Luc’s best buddy, so no chance of that.
 
DryKing said:
Yeah my guess is that he is going to want at least 9.5. Like you said, he has an agent who is notorious for wanting to set ceiling. At this point, I hope the Kings walk away as the deal will also, no doubt, include a full NMC and term.
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If Gavrikov wants Noah Dobson money, well.. bye. He’s not worth a penny north of 7.5 mill. Didn’t get it done the last two playoffs versus Oilers, what’s gonna change when he’s locked into a sweet heart overpaying contract. No f***ing thank you.
 
Today has been brutal, seeing the haves continue to have more. All the guys returning back to Florida, Vegas continues to steal super star players from the East for peanuts, guys stating openly they will only sign extensions in Vegas.. motherfvck.
 
DryKing said:
Yeah my guess is that he is going to want at least 9.5. Like you said, he has an agent who is notorious for wanting to set ceiling. At this point, I hope the Kings walk away as the deal will also, no doubt, include a full NMC and term.
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Just chatting here, but we all know how much money gets thrown at players on July 1, and now with the Cap going up, I think we will be surprised/shocked at what offers we will see this year.

I’m not saying Gavy is worth 9.5. I don’t think he is. But that is going to be the going price.

I’m still trying to acclimate myself to this new salary structure that is here. The 6.5 or 7 million is now going to be 8.5-10 for the players like Gavy.

I don’t really know what a fair price for Gavy is. He’s a Free Agent, the Cap is rising significantly, and he has interest from elsewhere.

I suspect that Gavy at 9 or 9.5 might look differently in a couple of years.

The Kings are in a win-now position according to Holland. If not Gavy then who, and for how much?
Provorov is off the board. There is Orlov and Nate Schmidt. There obviously are guys available in the trade market. Maybe you fill the spot cheaper but you give up assets.

I just think Gavy at 9-ish seems overpriced, but I’m not sure in this new environment that he really is.
 
DoubleMinor said:
Just chatting here, but we all know how much money gets thrown at players on July 1, and now with the Cap going up, I think we will be surprised/shocked at what offers we will see this year.

I’m not saying Gavy is worth 9.5. I don’t think he is. But that is going to be the going price.

I’m still trying to acclimate myself to this new salary structure that is here. The 6.5 or 7 million is now going to be 8.5-10 for the players like Gavy.

I don’t really know what a fair price for Gavy is. He’s a Free Agent, the Cap is rising significantly, and he has interest from elsewhere.

I suspect that Gavy at 9 or 9.5 might look differently in a couple of years.

The Kings are in a win-now position according to Holland. If not Gavy then who, and for how much?
Provorov is off the board. There is Orlov and Nate Schmidt. There obviously are guys available in the trade market. Maybe you fill the spot cheaper but you give up assets.

I just think Gavy at 9-ish seems overpriced, but I’m not sure in this new environment that he really is.
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Gavy takes a discount to stay or he can F - off.

Look at Gavy's Edge stats. He has already started to lose top speed (over the last two years). He is not getting any younger and does not deserve a high cap hit contract with term. That contract would be very ugly in 3-4 years.

Ekblad just signed for 8x6.1. (yes the term is to long) Ekblad deserves more $ than Gavy.
 
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symbology said:
Gavy takes a discount to stay or he can F - off.

Look at Gavy's Edge stats. He has already started to lose top speed (over the last two years). He is not getting any younger and does not deserve a high cap hit contract with term. That would be very ugly in 3-4 years.

Ekblad just signed for 8x6.1. (yes the term is to long) Ekblad deserves more $ than Gavy.
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Ekblad also has a PED issue on his resume.
But I hear your overall points.
 
DoubleMinor said:
Just chatting here, but we all know how much money gets thrown at players on July 1, and now with the Cap going up, I think we will be surprised/shocked at what offers we will see this year.

I’m not saying Gavy is worth 9.5. I don’t think he is. But that is going to be the going price.

I’m still trying to acclimate myself to this new salary structure that is here. The 6.5 or 7 million is now going to be 8.5-10 for the players like Gavy.

I don’t really know what a fair price for Gavy is. He’s a Free Agent, the Cap is rising significantly, and he has interest from elsewhere.

I suspect that Gavy at 9 or 9.5 might look differently in a couple of years.

The Kings are in a win-now position according to Holland. If not Gavy then who, and for how much?
Provorov is off the board. There is Orlov and Nate Schmidt. There obviously are guys available in the trade market. Maybe you fill the spot cheaper but you give up assets.

I just think Gavy at 9-ish seems overpriced, but I’m not sure in this new environment that he really is.
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Yeah I totally agree and I wouldn't be surprised if another team throws and offer like $9.5m AAV at him. He had an excellent season and some stellar standout analytics.

The problem with Gav is that he plays a game which will not age well due to the fact that he is neither fleet of foot or physical (unable to be physical and not end up out of position due to his lack of speed). He also projects to get slower over the next few seasons which will deteriorate his game quite a bit He probably has 2-3 good years, and 1-2 more average years ahead of him. It's just not worth the premium and term he will demand in order to stay with the Kings, imo.

The 7 year term for Provorov is a game changer when it comes to Gav even more than the $8.5m AAV. It's just not worth it even in a "win now" mentality.
 
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