The Pacific Division Thread

DryKing said:
I very much would like the Kings to acquire Pettersson, but not at that price. He is no where near the level of Eichel, and is currently on a long term deal that he is not living up to.

Maybe more in the lines of a 1st (top 10 protected), 2nd and a vet like Moore (salary offset) going back the other way (no salary retained).

Perhaps the Eichel deal format makes sense with 50% salary retained.
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I think it would be necessary to add a prospect like Cihar and maybe one of the goalies not named Carter or George, but make VAN retain 1-2 million while we're at it. Or take on Ceci. Whichever works for them.
 
Statue4Deano said:
That was the price for a very damaged Eichel. At the time of the trade nobody was sure how he would respond to the neck surgery long term.

Pettersson does have a big contract but he’s still young and he’s a 3x 30 goal scorer. He’s .95 PPG over his career. He’s very valuable. I don’t see the Canucks retaining much if any of his salary. I do like the idea of sending Moore back though. That has the same effect as the Canucks retaining salary on EP.
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I agree there were questions about Eichel's desired surgery and recovery, but most speculated that he would be back to health and full form once again. The question mark was more due to type of procedure never having been done on a hockey player before.

The thing that worries me about Pettersson is teammates seem to have beef with him. First it was Miller and then, apparently, Hughes. It also makes me wonder how he would handle the Kings style of play.

Below is pulled straight from a google search, so, granted, it should be taken with a grain of salt:

Reports indicate that Elias Pettersson was not at Quinn Hughes's farewell dinner
, seemingly confirming a growing distance between the two Vancouver Canucks stars due to Hughes' reported frustration with Pettersson's work ethic despite past closeness, a situation that culminated in Pettersson's absence from the send-off.

Key Details:
  • The Event: A going-away dinner for Quinn Hughes, attended by players like Brock Boeser, Tyler Myers, Conor Garland, and Filip Hronek.
  • Pettersson's Absence: Pettersson was notably absent, which sparked discussion given their past bond as young players.
  • Reason for Drift: Reports suggest Hughes became frustrated with Pettersson's off-season preparation and overall work ethic, leading to a significant rift despite Hughes' prior support for Pettersson.
  • Past Relationship: They were once close, with Hughes playing a big role in supporting Pettersson through tough times, but this relationship reportedly deteriorated.
In essence, Pettersson's non-attendance at the dinner served as a public indicator of the strained relationship between him and Hughes before Hughes' departure
 
DryKing said:
I agree there were questions about Eichel's desired surgery and recovery, but most speculated that he would be back to health and full form once again. The question mark was more due to type of procedure never having been done on a hockey player before.

The thing that worries me about Pettersson is teammates seem to have beef with him. First it was Miller and then, apparently, Hughes. It also makes me wonder how he would handle the Kings style of play.

Below is pulled straight from a google search, so, granted, it should be taken with a grain of salt:

Reports indicate that Elias Pettersson was not at Quinn Hughes's farewell dinner
, seemingly confirming a growing distance between the two Vancouver Canucks stars due to Hughes' reported frustration with Pettersson's work ethic despite past closeness, a situation that culminated in Pettersson's absence from the send-off.

Key Details:
  • The Event: A going-away dinner for Quinn Hughes, attended by players like Brock Boeser, Tyler Myers, Conor Garland, and Filip Hronek.
  • Pettersson's Absence: Pettersson was notably absent, which sparked discussion given their past bond as young players.
  • Reason for Drift: Reports suggest Hughes became frustrated with Pettersson's off-season preparation and overall work ethic, leading to a significant rift despite Hughes' prior support for Pettersson.
  • Past Relationship: They were once close, with Hughes playing a big role in supporting Pettersson through tough times, but this relationship reportedly deteriorated.
In essence, Pettersson's non-attendance at the dinner served as a public indicator of the strained relationship between him and Hughes before Hughes' departure
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I hadn’t heard about the Hughes rift. Very interesting. While the locker room is very much a concern I’ve heard that Kempe and Pettersson are pretty friendly as their wives are supposedly very close. Plus Adrian and Elias played on a line for Sweden at 4 Nations so there’s already some on-ice chemistry.

Maybe getting Elias out of that environment and into a locker room and playing on a line with a friend is what he needs to get back on track.
 
Statue4Deano said:
I hadn’t heard about the Hughes rift. Very interesting. While the locker room is very much a concern I’ve heard that Kempe and Pettersson are pretty friendly as their wives are supposedly very close. Plus Adrian and Elias played on a line for Sweden at 4 Nations so there’s already some on-ice chemistry.

Maybe getting Elias out of that environment and into a locker room and playing on a line with a friend is what he needs to get back on track.
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That's great info regarding the wives/friendship and agreed - having a fellow Swede and friend on the team (especially one which may be our next Captain) has to help. Likely a change in atmosphere changes things, but either way he's worth taking a chance on.

As you mentioned earlier in the tread - have a center core of Pettersson/Byfield/Turcotte would really catapult the team forward for (hopefully) years to come.
 
Statue4Deano said:
23 year old 2Cs are generally not available on the trade market. Remember it took acquiring Quinn Hughes for the Wild to give up Marco Rossi. Byfield and all his warts is better than Rossi. The Kings should not include Byfield in a trade for Pettersson.

Even if the plan is to eventually trade Byfield, he shouldn’t be used to acquire an older player on a very long term high cap hit contract.

If Vancouver is taking offers on Pettersson I bet it’s a move similar to the Jack Eichel trade. Vegas gave up Alex Tuch (established winger), Peyton Krebs (former mid-1st round pick) a 2nd and a 1st.

The Kings have Laf (Tuch), Greentree (Krebs) and a 2nd and 1st available.
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Yes but Laff is not close to Tuch and Greentree is no Krebs
 
The Nuts said:
Yes but Laff is not close to Tuch and Greentree is no Krebs
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Laf
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Goal scoring is not far off. And Laf is much much more physical than Tuch. Plus Laf comes with 3 more years of team control.

Krebs had a bit more hype because of his World Juniors performance but he was a 17th overall pick for a reason and Greentree’s offensive ceiling is higher than Krebs was.

If Vancouver prefers a Dman we’ve got a couple good ones in the OHL. If they want a goalie we’ve got 3 very good ones waiting to turn pro. Take their pick.
 
I think Pettersson is the perfect fit for the Kings.

Kings make a big trade for a center to replace Kopitar. One with some questions surrounding their current situation. I can see it now. After a dismal year next year the Kings dump him for a decent aging goaltender. It would be perfect, Darcy is signed through next season and the trade of Pettersson could land us a Darcy replacement. Perfect timing.

LA Kings Hockey!!!!!
 
symbology said:
I think Pettersson is the perfect fit for the Kings.

Kings make a big trade for a center to replace Kopitar. One with some questions surrounding their current situation. I can see it now. After a dismal year next year the Kings dump him for a decent aging goaltender. It would be perfect, Darcy is signed through next season and the trade of Pettersson could land us a Darcy replacement. Perfect timing.

LA Kings Hockey!!!!!
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Don’t forget the character issues.
 
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