[Alleged] Dastardly Deeds Thread

darby said:
I've been a bit of a fan, too, so I'd be really interested in seeing that response. It's gotta come at some point, and soon.




That being said, there are two things that this situation brought immediately to mind:

1) In his stand-up, he's told a story about a girlfriend he had who was way younger than him. She got them these onesie pajamas with animal heads and tails, and there was a humorous anecdote about a fainting dog and a pizza guy. I think it's a safe assumption that Ms. Dykstra, known for her cosplay and other nerdy tendencies, was that girlfriend.

2) Hardwick seems to have it in him to be pretty hard on things he doesn't enjoy or is not interested in. And he can be a little bit of a dick about it. I say that because of the way I've seen and heard him discuss certain topics, like sports. He makes no secret that he was never into sports, never liked them, and in the things I've seen, he has little time or respect for them. When sports happened to be a pop-culture or trending topic, his comments were often about how everyone else was into "sportsball" and the tone was pretty dismissive or superior. A few years ago, he was talking about some changes Nerdist was making and that he grudgingly felt like he had to create a sports beat, because apparently other people were into stuff like that. Now that is a faaaaaaaaaaaar cry from what is being laid at his feet today, obviously. But for glimpses of that attitude and how that could be extrapolated... I hear this and I'm very surprised, but I'm not exactly shocked. Nor do I find this completely unimaginable.
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I had a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong discussion about this today, and I made it quite clear that I don't to discuss it any further. He made his statement, and it furthers my belief that what she said happened, happened. It was a non-denial denial and the "she wanted to have my babies" garbage at the end was pretty shi*ty.

Also, this is from her current boyfriend Robert Kazinsky: "As @hardwick has chosen to deny Chloe?s account, I?ll take the opportunity to say I have seen the proof myself, I have seen the evidence first hand, I?ve seen the people who have come forward to tell @skydart how Chris ordered her blacklisted, there isn?t just one, there are many"

You can judge from that what you will.
 
Chris Hardwick Says ?At No Time? Did He Sexually Assault Ex-Girlfriend
https://deadline.com/2018/06/chris-hardwick-denies-abuse-allegations-chloe-dyskstra-1202411897/

In the interest of fairness.

I have to admit, I am having a hard time with this. I still am not sure. Maybe because I do not WANT to believe.

?When we were living together, I found out that Chloe had cheated on me, and I ended the relationship,? Hardwick asserts. ?For several weeks after we broke up, she asked to get back together with me and even told me she wanted to have kids with me, ?build a life? with me and told me that I was ?the one,? but I did not want to be with someone who was unfaithful,? he added in the carefully crafted response. ?I?m devastated to read that she is now accusing me of conduct that did not occur. l was blindsided by her post and always wanted the best for her. As a husband, a son, and future father, I do not condone any kind of mistreatment of women.?
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AMC Pulls Chris Hardwick's Show, Issues Statement
http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead...hardwick-pulled-amc-sexual-abuse-allegations/

“We have had a positive working relationship with Chris Hardwick for many years,” AMC said in a statement. “We take the troubling allegations that surfaced yesterday very seriously. While we assess the situation, Talking with Chris Hardwick will not air on AMC, and Chris has decided to step aside from moderating planned AMC and BBC America panels at Comic-Con International in San Diego next month.”
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jerseydevil said:
Chris Hardwick Says ?At No Time? Did He Sexually Assault Ex-Girlfriend
https://deadline.com/2018/06/chris-hardwick-denies-abuse-allegations-chloe-dyskstra-1202411897/

In the interest of fairness.

I have to admit, I am having a hard time with this. I still am not sure. Maybe because I do not WANT to believe.

?When we were living together, I found out that Chloe had cheated on me, and I ended the relationship,? Hardwick asserts. ?For several weeks after we broke up, she asked to get back together with me and even told me she wanted to have kids with me, ?build a life? with me and told me that I was ?the one,? but I did not want to be with someone who was unfaithful,? he added in the carefully crafted response. ?I?m devastated to read that she is now accusing me of conduct that did not occur. l was blindsided by her post and always wanted the best for her. As a husband, a son, and future father, I do not condone any kind of mistreatment of women.?
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When his statement said she cheated, and that he broke up with her and she wanted to have his babies, he completely lost me. Those things have nothing to do with the allegations, and that is exactly a thing that psychological abusers do, which is tear others down to make themselves look better. If he had taken the high road I would have gladly reserved judgment until the allegations were corroborated or not, but he exposed his bad side so gets no benefit of the doubt from me. Whatever the truth is about their personal relationship, he deserves to lose his gigs if he had her blacklisted. That is an evil, power tripping, psychotic thing to do.
 
makemelaugh said:
When his statement said she cheated, and that he broke up with her and she wanted to have his babies, he completely lost me. Those things have nothing to do with the allegations, and that is exactly a thing that psychological abusers do, which is tear others down to make themselves look better. If he had taken the high road I would have gladly reserved judgment until the allegations were corroborated or not, but he exposed his bad side so gets no benefit of the doubt from me. Whatever the truth is about their personal relationship, he deserves to lose his gigs if he had her blacklisted. That is an evil, power tripping, psychotic thing to do.
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So true, also "Future Father" WTF? His wife isn't pregnant.
Also noted that he never denied blacklisting her to everyone he could.
 
makemelaugh said:
When his statement said she cheated, and that he broke up with her and she wanted to have his babies, he completely lost me. Those things have nothing to do with the allegations, and that is exactly a thing that psychological abusers do, which is tear others down to make themselves look better. If he had taken the high road I would have gladly reserved judgment until the allegations were corroborated or not, but he exposed his bad side so gets no benefit of the doubt from me. Whatever the truth is about their personal relationship, he deserves to lose his gigs if he had her blacklisted. That is an evil, power tripping, psychotic thing to do.
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While I agree with you on the blacklisting, I am perplexed as to why his statements are being condemned without examination. If his side of the story is true, then it could very well show that she has a potential axe to grind. And, once again, if true and she did cheat...it shows that she may not have been the caged bird she is claiming to be. ONCE AGAIN, before you sharpen the axe...I do not know what happened between them. I don't dismiss her claims. AT ALL. But I won't dismiss his either. I wouldn't be surprised to see they are both telling some form of the truth. I think the pendulum has swung way too far in the opposite direction as far as AUTOMATICALLY believing the alleged victim. I really don't think you can erase one injustice by creating another. And I reserve the right to hold my opinion until someone verifies their claim. I find the internet's hanging mentality to be all pitchforks and torches, and anyone who preaches for caution is immediately gangjumped as a 'victim shamer', 'rape culture apologist' etc. The folks who are saying she has nothing to gain...that's simply not true. In a turbulent relationship there is motive to hurt someone you once loved. So yeah, coming out with this a week before his show was going to return, and 30 some odd days before Comic Con was meant for maximum exposure. These are all facets of the case. I am not claiming to KNOW. I just think that we have to get back to a more impartial way of looking at things. I still am unsure what happened here, and we may never really know. This guilty until proven innocent thing is a scary proposition. As someone who suffered at the hands of an ex's lies, I can honestly tell you a false accusation that you cannot disprove is potentially life changing. We need to be careful going down that road.
 
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jerseydevil said:
While I agree with you on the blacklisting, I am perplexed as to why his statements are being condemned without examination. If his side of the story is true, then it could very well show that she has a potential axe to grind. And, once again, if true and she did cheat...it shows that she may not have been the caged bird she is claiming to be. ONCE AGAIN, before you sharpen the axe...I do not know what happened between them. I don't dismiss her claims. AT ALL. But I won't dismiss his either. I wouldn't be surprised to see they are both telling some form of the truth. I think the pendulum has swung way too far in the opposite direction as far as AUTOMATICALLY believing the alleged victim. I really don't think you can erase one injustice by creating another. And I reserve the right to hold my opinion until someone verifies their claim. I find the internet's hanging mentality to be all pitchforks and torches, and anyone who preaches for caution is immediately gangjumped as a 'victim shamer', 'rape culture apologist' etc. The folks who are saying she has nothing to gain...that's simply not true. In a turbulent relationship there is motive to hurt someone you once loved. So yeah, coming out with this a week before his show was going to return, and 30 some odd days before Comic Con was meant for maximum exposure. These are all facets of the case. I am not claiming to KNOW. I just think that we have to get back to a more impartial way of looking at things. I still am unsure what happened here, and we may never really know. This guilty until proven innocent thing is a scary proposition. As someone who suffered at the hands of an ex's lies, I can honestly tell you a false accusation that you cannot disprove is potentially life changing. We need to be careful going down that road.
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Bro, you know I love you...

He hasn't denied a single accusation other than saying he didn't sexually assault her. Never said he didn't blacklist her. Never said he didn't yell at her in private for talking to other people. Never denied telling her she couldn't go out without him when they were at a convention. Literally hasn't said anything other than he denies sexually assaulting her. Here's the thing though, that's just ONE of the allegations. The one that he can hide behind and say, "well I didn't think she was upset by it." The only one where she can't prove she was crying when he was trying to pressure her into having sex with him.

He did these things. He was, at the very least, emotionally and psychologically abusing her. At the very worst, he was also sexually abusing her. If he didn't he'd have said so. Time to move on. He's not worth it just because he made us laugh at SDCC or on TV.
 
We had this conversation ad nauseum. Maybe you're right. But you made up your mind before even hearing his statement. And you were just waiting to hear that so you could dismiss it. Maybe he prioritized the sexual assault because that was the accusation that truly horrified him. I DON'T KNOW. And neither do you. I find it troubling that you aren't even a little impartial. From the jump you committed. And that's too cavalier for me. It isn't even about Hardwick for me anymore. It's the process that I have trouble with. You are making a leap based entirely in emotion. It's an overreaction and its frightening to me that this seems to be the model moving forward.

I really think you oughtta excuse yourself from jury service in the future...


EDIT: Yes, I was the person SK mentioned at first. We literally spent the whole day discussing. So, beyond this...would just cause friction between us, and not the good kind. I'd like to think I gave you something to think about...and I hope my questioning was not taken as any kind of sleight to victims everywhere. so, that's about all I wanna say about that.


p.s. sorry about that friction double entendre and possible assumptions implied...I forgot where I was.
 
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jerseydevil said:
Three Of Chris Hardwick’s Exes Have Come Forward To Defend Him Amid Abuse Allegations
https://uproxx.com/news/chris-hardwick-exes-defend-him-abuse-allegations/

Just putting this in here in the interest of equal time.
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too soon?

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