FA 2025 (lets get the discussions in one thread)

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This is huge.
 
DryKing said:
I worry about leagues like the CHL staying afloat but this seems like a decent compromise - (1) 19 year old per team. Still, that likely takes away several top players from each league which has got to hurt.
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The financial lure of the NCAA and this rule change is definitely going to hurt the CHL but the upside is the leagues will have to adjust by giving younger players bigger roles.

Seniority is a major factor in ice time/roles for a lot of the CHL. If the older high end talent is going away fast the team will be forced into giving more ice time to the lesser experienced players. Should be good for their development too.
 
Statue4Deano said:
The financial lure of the NCAA and this rule change is definitely going to hurt the CHL but the upside is the leagues will have to adjust by giving younger players bigger roles.

Seniority is a major factor in ice time/roles for a lot of the CHL. If the older high end talent is going away fast the team will be forced into giving more ice time to the lesser experienced players. Should be good for their development too.
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That's a good point and the NHL should really benefit from this change (in multiple ways). Higher level development opportunities at a younger age should benefit the sport as a whole.
 
Statue4Deano said:
The financial lure of the NCAA and this rule change is definitely going to hurt the CHL but the upside is the leagues will have to adjust by giving younger players bigger roles.

Seniority is a major factor in ice time/roles for a lot of the CHL. If the older high end talent is going away fast the team will be forced into giving more ice time to the lesser experienced players. Should be good for their development too.
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Hm, not that I thought about this new rule much, I did not consider that angle. So your saying it is good and bad and then good again? :)
 
Statue4Deano said:
Seems likely Holland will have to find the long term answer for C #2 in the trade market. My guess is he'll target Pavel Zacha. Zacha is 28. He has the size Holland loves. He's signed through 26-27 @ 4.75M. He can play a strong 2-way game. Most importantly Boston is at the crossroads of rebuilding or re-tooling so they could make him available before he hits free agency.

Some other options:
Martin Necas - free agent 2026
Jared McCann - free agent 2027
Nic Roy - free agent 2027
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See my previous post about upcoming UFAs Holland could/should target.
 
DryKing said:
I'd prefer Necas, but Zacha is a steal on that contract. I wonder what Boston would want for him considering our prospect pool is pretty thin. Likely they'd want one of prospect goaltenders and picks?

I think we should hold on to Greentree at all costs.
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Zacha checks all the boxes. He’d be an excellent long term fit behind Byfield. Hard to say what Boston would want in return. Best course of action would be to wait for them to fall out of contention and make a play for him at the trade deadline.

Kings prospect pool is deep in goaltending and getting there in defensemen. Way too shallow in top 6 potential forwards to give up the best of the bunch.
 
www.nytimes.com

Which NHL teams improved the most this offseason? Ranking all 32

From most value added to least, here’s how each team has changed this summer.
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32. Los Angeles Kings​

Net Rating added: -18

In: Corey Perry, Joel Armia, Cody Ceci, Brian Dumoulin, Anton Forsberg
Out: Tanner Jeannot, Vladislav Gavrikov, Jordan Spence, David Rittich

You’ve heard of addition by subtraction? Well, the Kings pulled off the rare feat of subtraction by addition. On defense, the team turned Vladislav Gavrikov, an actual top-pair defenseman, into Cody Ceci and Brian Dumoulin, two low-end third-pair defensemen — at best. They also parted ways with Jordan Spence, an undersized defender who looked promising in a sheltered role last year.

The series of decisions is among the strangest in recent memory, where the team ended up paying the exact same amount of money ($8.5 million total) to downgrade their blue line by 18 goals.

It is possible that The System is all that matters in Los Angeles, that both Ceci and Dumoulin will be better than they look because of it and vice versa for the departed. Given the age and track record of the two new guys coming in, consider me highly skeptical of the bet the Kings made here — one where they saved zero dollars and got a lot worse in the process.
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Ouch.
 
Clif said:
I don’t care. It’s by Dom, who had the Kings landing at 93 points last season. Also had them for 93 in 2022-23. The only time he had them solidly a playoff team was after the PLD trade.
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I hope you're right, because everything he said is exactly what I was thinking. I'd love to be horribly wrong.
 
Ice Rhino said:
I hope you're right, because everything he said is exactly what I was thinking. I'd love to be horribly wrong.
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I think we all have our own concerns about the defense independent of anyone’s take. Whatever Dom does to land at point projections however doesn’t concern me since his method hasn’t been accurate for the Kings.

It’s also inaccurate to call Dumoulin a low end third pair dman at best. It is accurate to say that about Ceci, which is really driving so many of these takes but that’s just not the whole story.

I don’t take any piece seriously that fails to acknowledge that the Kings legitimately improved their fourth line and backup goaltender.
 
Statue4Deano said:
www.nytimes.com

Which NHL teams improved the most this offseason? Ranking all 32

From most value added to least, here’s how each team has changed this summer.
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Ouch.
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“On defense, the team turned Vladislav Gavrikov, an actual top-pair defenseman, into Cody Ceci and Brian Dumoulin, two low-end third-pair defensemen — at best.”

Why do people like Dom keep saying that the Kings ‘turned’ or ‘got rid of’ Gavrikov? They didn’t ‘turn’ Gavi into anything. He was a FA and didn’t want to sign in L.A. Man, it’s like he just started watching the NHL last season.
 
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