How Long Can Management Go Without Being Held Accountable?

Dorian20

4th Line Grinder
Hey long is this gonna be tolerated? Is anyone going to start boycotting this nonsense and hold Blake and Luc accountable? Blake is going on season 9 without having won a single playoff round....

Tick Tock Rob!
 
As long as AEG makes $, it seems that they are happy. How long until fans five up and stop going to games and buying Kings garb. That is when we will see a change. When AEG's bottom line changes.
This. It is pretty apparent the goal is to make the playoffs and make money. AEG is happy to ice the 10-16th best team in the NHL
 
They will argue that they're technically in a playoff spot right now and that we're overreacting.
Yeah, technically. But we're are very close to falling out of the playoffs.

In the last ten games, the Kings are 2-7-1, and only San Jose has a worse record in the last ten (2-8-0). Oh, and we've lost four straight, and have been shutout in consecutuve games. Not exactly trending in the right direction.
 
Hey long is this gonna be tolerated? Is anyone going to start boycotting this nonsense and hold Blake and Luc accountable? Blake is going on season 9 without having won a single playoff round....

Tick Tock Rob!
Rob & Co should have hit the bricks after the Vilardi trade. IMHO, that trade will haunt us for years...

...meanwhile, Gabe currently has more points that any Kings player and his team sits at the top of the West.

As far as boycotting, I may go to a few games, but I don't know if I want to give them anymore of my money until changes are made...and I mean upper management. At the last game I attended, my buddy said he'd never seen so many fans yawning in the stands. This team will do that to you.

As I posted in a recent GDT, an old hockey bud said, point blank, "The Kings need better players" when I aksed him what he thought the problem was. Yep. We have too many spectators and prospects that have not developed. Like everyone else here, I love Kopi, but Father Time is catching up to him, fast. Kempe is elite, in my opinion, but after that? Fiala is physically gifted but mentally inconsistent. QB shows flashes of brilliance, but once again is wildly inconsistent. Moore has vanished. The list goes on.

Time for yet another rebuild, from the foundation up.........
 
Rob & Co should have hit the bricks after the Vilardi trade. IMHO, that trade will haunt us for years...

...meanwhile, Gabe currently has more points that any Kings player and his team sits at the top of the West.

As far as boycotting, I may go to a few games, but I don't know if I want to give them anymore of my money until changes are made...and I mean upper management. At the last game I attended, my buddy said he'd never seen so many fans yawning in the stands. This team will do that to you.

As I posted in a recent GDT, an old hockey bud said, point blank, "The Kings need better players" when I aksed him what he thought the problem was. Yep. We have too many spectators and prospects that have not developed. Like everyone else here, I love Kopi, but Father Time is catching up to him, fast. Kempe is elite, in my opinion, but after that? Fiala is physically gifted but mentally inconsistent. QB shows flashes of brilliance, but once again is wildly inconsistent. Moore has vanished. The list goes on.

Time for yet another rebuild, from the foundation up.........
I still think Rob is a good GM. I think Luc is a horrible President, and I think Bergevin has sent the team to the pit of despair since joining. At this point, though, they all need to go.

I don't think a full rebuild is needed but I'm still not sold on Hiller (though he has done a better job than I expected), and it's time to test out Kempe on a line centered by Byfield. Doughty really needs to go or accept a reasonable role averaging no more than 22 minutes a game and playing reasonable shift lengths.

Equally important, we need to rebuild our pipeline.

To their credit, AEG continues to spend the money which should set the Kings up for success, but consistently poor decisions by the Kings President and his leadership team derail this team and demotivate their actual fan base while half-heatedly attempting to expand it.
 
I still think Rob is a good GM. I think Luc is a horrible President, and I think Bergevin has sent the team to the pit of despair since joining. At this point, though, they all need to go.

I don't think a full rebuild is needed but I'm still not sold on Hiller (though he has done a better job than I expected), and it's time to test out Kempe on a line centered by Byfield. Doughty really needs to go or accept a reasonable role averaging no more than 22 minutes a game and playing reasonable shift lengths.

Equally important, we need to rebuild our pipeline.

To their credit, AEG continues to spend the money which should set the Kings up for success, but consistently poor decisions by the Kings President and his leadership team derail this team and demotivate their actual fan base while half-heatedly attempting to expand it.
I like Hiller, but this is a league where results matter. Yeah, he came into a bad situation, and I give him credit where it's due. However, I think it's time for a change. Blake needs to go. As the OP stated, this is almost a decade and the Kings have won zero playoff rounds.

If this were say, Buffalo, San Jose or Utah, it would be a different story. But this is Los Angeles. We need teams that compete at the highest levels year in and year out.

The Dodgers have been at or near the top for many years. The Rams are currently one of the better teams in the NFL, just snakebit of late. LA wants and needs winners. Too much money too flounder year in and year out.

Blake had his shot. And sorry, but there's just no defending some of his moronic moves. I know I sound like a broken record, but when I woke up that fateful monring...and I saw the headlines...I honestly thought it was a joke. Or a typo. Pierre-Luc freakin' Dubois in exchange for Gabe Vilardi, Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kupari, and a 2024 second-round draft pick? What the actual f*ck? Was Blake drunk when he did this??

Tear it down and start over with new management. I've seen enough.

Once I started watching the Ducks, again, because they are more entertaining than this team, well, something is very wrong. And changes are overdue.
 
I still think Rob is a good GM. I think Luc is a horrible President, and I think Bergevin has sent the team to the pit of despair since joining. At this point, though, they all need to go.

I don't think a full rebuild is needed but I'm still not sold on Hiller (though he has done a better job than I expected), and it's time to test out Kempe on a line centered by Byfield. Doughty really needs to go or accept a reasonable role averaging no more than 22 minutes a game and playing reasonable shift lengths.

Equally important, we need to rebuild our pipeline.

To their credit, AEG continues to spend the money which should set the Kings up for success, but consistently poor decisions by the Kings President and his leadership team derail this team and demotivate their actual fan base while half-heatedly attempting to expand it.
Luc is there for the PR stuff. And he’s really good at that. He’s connected with all the power centers in the city and the NHL.

I also think Blake is fine.
Hiller deserves the opportunity to get them on track again.

I’m a bit more patient than a lot of fans.
This is a miserable stretch. All teams have slumps. The slump is coming at the same time they are getting zero breaks. Not sure if it’s fixable if not but I’ll give it time.

If they are still winless in a week or two it’s time to talk about housecleaning.
Just my opinion.
 
8+ years apparently. I think the biggest Blake screw ups are done (Stutzle/Faber) and we're gonna be horrendously average til he's gone.
 
Hey long is this gonna be tolerated? Is anyone going to start boycotting this nonsense and hold Blake and Luc accountable? Blake is going on season 9 without having won a single playoff round....

Tick Tock Rob!
Not that it really matter and doubt things will change, but I already did, for the ladt 20 years I've been coming up from San Diego to see 10 to 12 games a year, but this year i have not and wont this year and unless things change, I wont be in the future. Team is a boring watch on top of it and now ive have found more enjoyable things to do with my money,,
 
Not that it really matter and doubt things will change, but I already did, for the ladt 20 years I've been coming up from San Diego to see 10 to 12 games a year, but this year i have not and wont this year and unless things change, I wont be in the future. Team is a boring watch on top of it and now ive have found more enjoyable things to do with my money,,
As much as I enjoy the experience of watching ice hockey in person, I'm going to far less games now than I did since the two Stanley Cup runs, and even long before that.
Between how expensive everything has become and quite frankly, a rather boring brand of hockey, it's just not worth going down there 10 or 12 times a year anymore.
In the last 10 years, I've probably been averaging three games a season. But recently when I'm watching the Kings, I feel like it's nothing more than a glorified beer league game. A very expensive beer league game.
 
As much as I enjoy the experience of watching ice hockey in person, I'm going to far less games now than I did since the two Stanley Cup runs, and even long before that.
Between how expensive everything has become and quite frankly, a rather boring brand of hockey, it's just not worth going down there 10 or 12 times a year anymore.
In the last 10 years, I've probably been averaging three games a season. But recently when I'm watching the Kings, I feel like it's nothing more than a glorified beer league game. A very expensive beer league game.
would you go as far as to say the live experience has been watered down and now you're just in some entertainment venue to watch random hockey players put on a show? I miss the culture inside the building, especially during the DL days. We just had a swagger to us, but i guess nothing lasts forever.
 
would you go as far as to say the live experience has been watered down and now you're just in some entertainment venue to watch random hockey players put on a show? I miss the culture inside the building, especially during the DL days. We just had a swagger to us, but i guess nothing lasts forever.
The arena environment is keeping me away. Too loud and obnoxious.
 
I just can’t understand who finds this mind numbing style of play entertaining to watch? Winning 2-1 in today’s NHL is nothing like winning 2-1 during the Cup runs. Those teams and the rest of the elite teams in league of that era were a mix of physicality, tactics and technique.

Today’s NHL is almost completely about speed, counter-attacking and forcing defenders into making mistakes. Yet Blake and Co. are dead set on re-creating some bastardized version of the 2014 team forever and ever until Kopitar and Doughty retire. It’s madness. And frankly the product sucks because the play style is so anachronistic.

This team will not win anything playing Rob Blake and Jim Hiller hockey. Period. Maybe these guys can get lucky and get out of the 1st round but the ceiling on this team is exactly that. A borderline 1st round playoff team.

Clean house and please for the love of God bring in some new or even modern ideas of how to building an organization.
 
would you go as far as to say the live experience has been watered down and now you're just in some entertainment venue to watch random hockey players put on a show? I miss the culture inside the building, especially during the DL days. We just had a swagger to us, but i guess nothing lasts forever.
I will say this: I've been spoiled rotten by a lot of incredible seasons, and not just 2012 and 2014.
There was the Miracle on Manchester, the Frenzy on Fig, and in between that were the Gretzky years. I'll never forget the Calgary elimination game in 1993, for example. The Kings won 9-6 and McSorley was out there busting heads and we sat in the second row and that was too much fun.
And yeah the DL years, and the years I was working for Tim Leiweke when we were building Staples were great too.
It just feels different now. Don't get me wrong; I still enjoy going to the games very much. But I don't think I'll ever be able to replicate those special seasons again.
And since the cost of attending games in person has gone up exponentially, I find myself more likely just to stay home and watch it on the tube. And if I happen to fall asleep watching a 'low-event' Kings game, I'd rather do it on my couch than in the balcony at The Crypt.
 
I just can’t understand who finds this mind numbing style of play entertaining to watch? Winning 2-1 in today’s NHL is nothing like winning 2-1 during the Cup runs. Those teams and the rest of the elite teams in league of that era were a mix of physicality, tactics and technique.

Today’s NHL is almost completely about speed, counter-attacking and forcing defenders into making mistakes. Yet Blake and Co. are dead set on re-creating some bastardized version of the 2014 team forever and ever until Kopitar and Doughty retire. It’s madness. And frankly the product sucks because the play style is so anachronistic.

This team will not win anything playing Rob Blake and Jim Hiller hockey. Period. Maybe these guys can get lucky and get out of the 1st round but the ceiling on this team is exactly that. A borderline 1st round playoff team.

Clean house and please for the love of God bring in some new or even modern ideas of how to building an organization.
It's impossible to disagree with any of that.
And I hate to sound whiny, but it's almost like we're beginning to create a losing culture. Case in point: A lot of the players we trade away are doing very well on othet teams.
Coincidence? I don't know... but I'll be the first one to break out a bottle of champagne when Blake hits the bricks.
 
I will say this: I've been spoiled rotten by a lot of incredible seasons, and not just 2012 and 2014.
There was the Miracle on Manchester, the Frenzy on Fig, and in between that were the Gretzky years. I'll never forget the Calgary elimination game in 1993, for example. The Kings won 9-6 and McSorley was out there busting heads and we sat in the second row and that was too much fun.
And yeah the DL years, and the years I was working for Tim Leiweke when we were building Staples were great too.
It just feels different now. Don't get me wrong; I still enjoy going to the games very much. But I don't think I'll ever be able to replicate those special seasons again.
And since the cost of attending games in person has gone up exponentially, I find myself more likely just to stay home and watch it on the tube. And if I happen to fall asleep watching a 'low-event' Kings game, I'd rather do it on my couch than in the balcony at The Crypt.
That ’93 9-6 game was incredible, as was that whole spring (until McSorley’s illegal stick)! But actually, when you consider incredible Kings seasons, I would say they can be counted on one hand (1982 - really one series, 1993, 2001, 2012, 2014). Maybe add in 1991 as it was the Kings only division title. Beyond that, many, many years of mediocrity or worse. That’s what made those 5 seasons so special.
As for the here and now, yes it is different, even from the early days of the DL rebuild (2007-2009). Those Kings teams were bad, but you knew DL had a well-conceived plan and was methodical in carrying it out. I can’t say the same about Blake.
 
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