Kempe Contract Watch Thread

jammer06 said:
In actual Kempe contract reporting by Lebrun:






www.nytimes.com

Keith Pelley on Leafs’ urgency, Oilers’ McDavid relief, Kempe talks and more: NHL BOG rumblings

Olympic concerns and the World Cup of Hockey city bid process were other main topics at the NHL Board of Governors meeting Wednesday.
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Lot of nothing and if it was this simple they'd have a deal already. Hard to tell who is posturing over what but good luck attracting UFA's when you won't even pay your won players Holland.
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There’s also always the option that he just doesn’t want to play in LA anymore. It may have little to do with money and term. I guess we’ll see.
 
Moog said:
I dig your style too, man.

Since you don't believe this to be true, your honor I'd like to enter exhibit "G" into evidence:

"G" stands for GALAXY.

I've said this many times, but it bears repeating because people don't know or forget AEG sports history.

Timmy ran Galaxy as well for Uncle Phil. Galaxy had a helluva run under Timmy and his front office.
Best in the league.

But wait for it............when Timmy left AEG, so went the Kings..........so went the Galaxy.
Both entered into the same clown show "bro-culture" "nepotism" front office under new Danny B leadership. Both of Uncle Phil's teams entered into their mediocrity phase.

No longer chasing championships, more interested in bean counting and fleecing the fans for $$$.

Both teams entered into Coach roulette and GM roulette.
Both teams making bone headed signings by poorly qualified GMs.
Both teams winning ZERO since 2014.
Coincidence?

Timmy would have thrown out the front office trash, but Danny B keeps everyone in place.

However Galaxy did win an MLS Cup last season (their sixth).
Fans finally boycotted the club, and forced the complete firing of the front office, and a new "outside" GM brought in to run the show.

(Sidebar this year they are a mess due to their star getting a season ending injury, combined with asinine MLS league rules that forced them to have a fire sale and gut the core of the team due to salary cap rules)

So long as fans keep giving the team money for mediocrity, Danny B. and Luc will be content to stay the course. Low risk, and it keeps the club as close to being in the black as possible year over year.
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Moog said:
I dig your style too, man.

Since you don't believe this to be true, your honor I'd like to enter exhibit "G" into evidence:

"G" stands for GALAXY.

I've said this many times, but it bears repeating because people don't know or forget AEG sports history.

Timmy ran Galaxy as well for Uncle Phil. Galaxy had a helluva run under Timmy and his front office.
Best in the league.

But wait for it............when Timmy left AEG, so went the Kings..........so went the Galaxy.
Both entered into the same clown show "bro-culture" "nepotism" front office under new Danny B leadership. Both of Uncle Phil's teams entered into their mediocrity phase.

No longer chasing championships, more interested in bean counting and fleecing the fans for $$$.

Both teams entered into Coach roulette and GM roulette.
Both teams making bone headed signings by poorly qualified GMs.
Both teams winning ZERO since 2014.
Coincidence?

Timmy would have thrown out the front office trash, but Danny B keeps everyone in place.

However Galaxy did win an MLS Cup last season (their sixth).
Fans finally boycotted the club, and forced the complete firing of the front office, and a new "outside" GM brought in to run the show.

(Sidebar this year they are a mess due to their star getting a season ending injury, combined with asinine MLS league rules that forced them to have a fire sale and gut the core of the team due to salary cap rules)

So long as fans keep giving the team money for mediocrity, Danny B. and Luc will be content to stay the course. Low risk, and it keeps the club as close to being in the black as possible year over year.
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Thanks, I enjoy the discussion. I certainly don’t love having Luc this involved in team building. Galaxy is an important word to me too, and also something I’ve repeated, as in Galaxy Brain Luc.

My contention with your angle is where your placing the lionshare of the blame. Tim L was here for Dave Taylor also. The success of the past was about Dean. Which brings me to:
Statue4Deano said:
My criticism of the current front office brain trust is not that they’re satisfied with just making the playoffs. It’s that they don’t know how to solve for the equation that takes them into the contender tier with the elite teams in the West.

It’s not some stroke of luck that Edmonton, Colorado and Dallas have all been in the running for the #1 seed in the West for the last 5+ seasons. They’re simply more competent where it matters most. They either draft better, trade better, develop better, sign better or play better on the ice than the rest of the West. These things were also true of Dean Lombardi’s Kings from 2012-2014.

He built rosters that weren’t meant for regular season success. That’s why they were a couple fortunate bounces away from missing the playoffs altogether in 2012. Compare the rosters he built over that span to the other contenders in the West and they were deeper than everyone except for Chicago, Vancouver and maybe St. Louis.

Can anyone look at the rosters the Kings have iced since they returned to the playoffs 4 years ago and honestly say they were or are among the Top 3 in the West? I’d say last year they were probably #4 if Doughty were healthy. But the other years? Nope. This year? Nope.

So yes, getting fortunate bounces is incredibly important and impossible to predict but icing a team that is deeper than your opponent and better coached is something a front office absolutely can control.
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I think it’s a clearer picture to talk about Blake just not being good enough as GM than it is to talk about ownership somehow not caring enough about “building a winner.” Blake had no cap constraints placed on him and seemingly a green light to do as he pleased, including an albeit abbreviated rebuild which ownership groups league-wide hate. San Jose went kicking and screaming into theirs.

Also not a stroke of luck for the teams you mentioned but as elsewhere stated here there is luck in a rebuild re: who’s available. COL had McKinnon and Makar available. We know EDM’s story. NYR “lucked” into Lafreniere and Kappo with their high choices. DAL however is one of the most brilliantly constructed rosters in the league.
 
Clif said:
Thanks, I enjoy the discussion. I certainly don’t love having Luc this involved in team building. Galaxy is an important word to me too, and also something I’ve repeated, as in Galaxy Brain Luc.

My contention with your angle is where your placing the lionshare of the blame. Tim L was here for Dave Taylor also. The success of the past was about Dean. Which brings me to:

I think it’s a clearer picture to talk about Blake just not being good enough as GM than it is to talk about ownership somehow not caring enough about “building a winner.” Blake had no cap constraints placed on him and seemingly a green light to do as he pleased, including an albeit abbreviated rebuild which ownership groups league-wide hate. San Jose went kicking and screaming into theirs.

Also not a stroke of luck for the teams you mentioned but as elsewhere stated here there is luck in a rebuild re: who’s available. COL had McKinnon and Makar available. We know EDM’s story. NYR “lucked” into Lafreniere and Kappo with their high choices. DAL however is one of the most brilliantly constructed rosters in the league.
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While we agree and disagree on some points, I think we both agree on Blake failing upwards to the GM spot.

However it is ownership/management that allowed that.
They also allowed him to make poor player/roster decisions, and continued to allow him to play coach roulette when the team continued to fail under his leadership.

There is a ton of importance on the GM & President.
However, the buck does stop at the top.
When a team treads water in mediocrity for a decade, it really does point to ownership.
 
Bollocks said:
And who would you draft that would result in a contending team this season? None of the realistic alternatives are considerably bigger difference makers. And please don't say Stutzle. QB is at least as good as him where it matters the most (impact on winning), and has more upside to boot.
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Who knows. Whatever the reason, GM Potato has been replaced by a different spud and the franchise is right back to needing high draft picks.
 
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