Sorry you misunderstood. Not gearing up to hate as you are so kind to point out without actually referencing who...
I posted right after a quote that directly referenced you. I didn't feel the need to quote anything, but if you were confused - yes, the "he" to whom I was referring was you. I didn't think that was particularly veiled at all.
Just don't like the tactic that Ghostbusters employed of whining about the backlash because fanboys 'hate' women. I basically was pointing out that WW was going down that route.
Ghostbusters was taking a ton of s*** specifically because the cast was all female. Many of the fanboys were saying that outright or making a point of having a problem with that specific thing. For the record, my issues with the movie had nothing to do with the fact that they were women. It just happened that the first trailer looked horrible and the movie itself (I paid to see it in a theater) was mediocre at best (why the f*** was there a street dance scene?). Kate McKinnon, though, was brilliant.
That aside, I don't see how anything to do with Wonder Woman is going down that "feminine pre-apology" route at all. At least from a commentary perspective. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places. But this is a movie about a woman, made by women, so if they do end up making a point that the story is be told from that perspective, well, that's fine. At least for me.
But the article you linked had nothing to do with that at all. The crux of the article was "Early reviews are generally good, in spite of the fact that someone said it was just like the other DC movies." I don't see how how that has anything to do with anyone whining about fanboy vagina backlash as much as it has to do with the-other-DC-movies-were-sh**ty backlash. For some reason, you seem to be equating the two.
If I am such a DC apologist, why would I hate WW? Especially without seeing it.
I thought that was weird, too, but then, maybe I misread
Ewwww I am seeing some of the same let's head off the critics speak about how girls can ____ as good as boys, that made me hate Ghostbusters before it even came out.
which made me believe that you might hate Wonder Woman before it came out if there was too much lady talk about it.
I think you might be able to see how I could arrive at that conclusion given the context. My mistake?
Yet again, you grind your axe for reasons I can't fathom. I have mentioned it in the past, and I try to rise above it...but I apparently did something to you, that much is obvious. Maybe, instead of thinly disguised personal attacks you could just stick to the facts.
I don't have a strong feeling for you personally one way or the other, except for maybe that I think you're a bit thin-skinned. But that's a personal opinion on a gradient, and I could be wrong.
And I don't consider it a personal attack. I just find that, in certain instances, your posts make me ask questions or feel the need to comment. And when I voice those questions, I'm not terribly apologetic about it. In this case, I thought it was funny that you went pretty hard to bat for the other three DC movies, but this one seemed like (and maybe I was wrong here) you were ready to back away from it for potential lady reasons. In spite of the fact that, as a movie, it seemed in all likelihood to be the best of the bunch.
I don't couch what I write on this board in a "IMHO" or other equivocal terms just because my username is right there and this is clearly my opinion. And it's a message board, so why be humble about anything? Maybe that makes me come off harsher than I mean to. But whatever, it's a message board.
Talk about hating something before you see it...wasn't that something you did with BvsS? I apologize if I am wrong about that...but I really don't think I am.
Oh, no. I do that a lot. I certainly did it with the DC movies leading up to this one. And I'm usually not wrong, at least as far as what I tend to end up liking.
I knew that BvS was gonna be terrible as soon as I saw any footage, let alone the trailer. Actually, probably from all the pre-production stills and stuff. Having seen the previous Superman movie and then seeing basically more of the same, it was not a tough call to make. And once I saw the movie... geez.
I actually did have a TON of fun telling people WHY I thought it was so bad. About 15 minutes into the movie, I was so angry by the story that I started a running list of problems (which is still on my phone). So I had a 31 items to work from while I ranted. Gal Gadot was on the list, actually, but as was one of the few positive things I took from the movie.
I am starting to get worried about the possibility that even if Wonder Woman is a solid movie, it might not do very good at the Box Office, well, because people are pretty unreliable. I am lamenting the fact that Warner's hasn't done more of a commercial push for the movie, but that might just be in my head.
Either way, I am crossing my fingers for a good movie and hopefully everything else takes cares of itself.
I'm with you. It looks like it could go the Captain America: First Avenger route a little, with some Thor in Valhalla thrown in. She was a bright spot (figuratively and almost literally) in BvS and the movie looks like it could be decent, if not good. If it is, we'll see how the other two movies coming up look. I, too, am hopeful.
But yeah, for a movie coming out in, what, 3 weeks(?), there doesn't seem to be as big a push as there usually is for a June opening blockbuster of this type.*
* JD, if you're looking for the gender narrative to be worried about, this is it. If the movie doesn't blow up, then the questions will be "Why didn't WB promote it as much as it did the other movies?" And the answers could be:
1) Because they wanted to back off the marketing blitz for this one because they thought maybe the blitzes for the other ones hurt them from overexposure.
2) Because they didn't feel like putting to much into backing another comic book movie.
3) Because they figured enough people already knew the character so they could get away with backing off since people will see it anyway.
3) Because they didn't feel like putting to much into backing a movie with a woman on the poster.
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