The Comic Books and Comic Book movies thread

roenick said:
I have been very interested in Deadpool but have never read much. Any suggestions where to start with him? Thanks.
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I think the general consensus is to start with Joe Kelly's run, which is what made the character popular (amongst comic fans). So start with Deadpool Classic Vol. 2

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Deadpool Classic, Vol. 2: Joe Kelly, Ed McGuinness, Kevin Lau, Pete Woods, Shannon Denton, John Fang, Aaron Lopresti, Bernard Chang: 9780785137313: Amazon.com: Books

I say start with Vol. 2 because Vol. 1 is mostly the Rob Leifeld stuff before he was funny. Unfortunately, the very first issue of Joe Kelly's run is in Vol. 1 (because otherwise everyone would skip it, probably), but you'll be fine starting with Vol. 2. I want to warn you that this isn't Watchmen. The book doesn't really hit it's stride until later, but from here you get some good fun and a couple laughs. It's a good starting point.

I want to say that the newly released Gail Simone book would be a better starting point, but I need to re-read it first. Hopefully, my shop has the copy I order when i go to pick my books up this week and I can let you know. :)
 
jerseydevil said:
Ok, that's one way of looking at it but I see Guardians and Ant Man as wild card movies that actually are counter to what this article proposes. Both bring in directors who are VERY off the board choices and who may bring some non comic book fans to the table. And Guardians look like it has something that is sadly lacking in these recent movies...a sense of real fun and bright colors and strange places...you know, like an actual comic book. They may both actually fail simply because they aren't as calculated for profit like Avengers 2, FF vs Xmen and Supes vs Batman vs everyone in the DC universe. If they are even total failures I respect Marvel for NOT playing it entirely safe.
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I agree. I think stuff like Ant-Man and GotG may not have quite as much initial appeal, but the quality and word of mouth will hopefully do the rest of the work. Assuming these are as good as JD and I are assuming they will be.

Honestly, I think making movies like this, sort of... diversifying within the genre, is GOOD for the genre. Sticking with straight ahead superhero fare is more of a danger. Got to keep things fresh and I think these two directors are perfectly suited to make their films stand out in that way.
 
jerseydevil said:
Ok, that's one way of looking at it but I see Guardians and Ant Man as wild card movies that actually are counter to what this article proposes. Both bring in directors who are VERY off the board choices and who may bring some non comic book fans to the table. And Guardians look like it has something that is sadly lacking in these recent movies...a sense of real fun and bright colors and strange places...you know, like an actual comic book. They may both actually fail simply because they aren't as calculated for profit like Avengers 2, FF vs Xmen and Supes vs Batman vs everyone in the DC universe. If they are even total failures I respect Marvel for NOT playing it entirely safe.
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I'm all for something new, but the giant entertainment conglomerate that writes the nine-figure checks to make the movies is not going to respect box office articles that reference John Carter Of Mars. Getting comic book readers to the theater is only going to bring in so much money, not enough to even pay for the opening action scene.

The whole Batman / Superman thing is completely stupid and certainly should not be used to introduce a new Batman, especially one played by Affleck. My current theory on the Affleck casting is that they are trying to get Christian Bale to wake up one day and realize "Holy ****, Affleck is going to crap all over everything I did!" and then call up the studio and demand his cowl back. Affleck should stick to directing realistic dramatic thrillers - he's somehow good at it.
 
KingInTheWest said:
I'm all for something new, but the giant entertainment conglomerate that writes the nine-figure checks to make the movies is not going to respect box office articles that reference John Carter Of Mars. Getting comic book readers to the theater is only going to bring in so much money, not enough to even pay for the opening action scene.

The whole Batman / Superman thing is completely stupid and certainly should not be used to introduce a new Batman, especially one played by Affleck. My current theory on the Affleck casting is that they are trying to get Christian Bale to wake up one day and realize "Holy ****, Affleck is going to crap all over everything I did!" and then call up the studio and demand his cowl back. Affleck should stick to directing realistic dramatic thrillers - he's somehow good at it.
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See...and this is where I lose everyone, what exactly did Bale do? The wonderful Bat-voice? Not actually be in costume for more than 15 minutes per movie? I know I am Don Quixoteeing here but it's time to face facts Nolanites and Nolanistas...THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY WAS NOT ALL THAT!!!!!!! I think it's pretty obvious, and will become more so with the passage of time, that people got caught up in a mass hysteria moment. I LOOK FORWARD to BatFleck maybe putting the romantacized opinions even further in the rear view. And if not him, then they will reboot again. See, I must be the oddball. I want the ratio of Bruce Wayne to Batman to be about 7%-93%, not the other way around. Lets put superheroes back in the superhero movie. That's my motto for the new year. In fact I may make my own movie where the Cape doesn't even have a secret identity.

And John Carter of Mars got JOBBED. The media submarined that movie before folks could even make up their minds. It was a damned fine ENTERTAINING movie.
 
OOOh that made me look for the OLD Guardians I grew up with and it's nice to see the Colan/Wein/Gerber/Buscema/etc stuff is collected too. Gonna have to start picking those up. That collection Adge, I take it you have read a lot of that stuff...is it cool for an older Marvel COSMIC junkie like me or is it more newfangled than maybe I might enjoy?

Also saw they have hardcovers(a little pricey) of some of the older Marvel stuff I have been dying to tuck into, like Tales to Astonish mk1 Deathlok and the old Inhumans/Iron Fist stuff. Damned, gonna have to get a second job. Are the Amazon prices competetive or do you know of any other sites where I might get some relief. May have to actually hardcover shop @ ComiCon this year.
 
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I'm buying them all!
 
adgy-san said:
Official: Michael Douglas Is Hank Pym In Ant-Man, And He's (Apparently) The Villain - UPDATE - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors

Interesting.
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UPDATED: Variety have removed any reference to villainy but not acknowledged the edit…

Yeah, the link I had over in the Avengers thread made no mention of him as villain either. I trust Wright, but I really hope that wasn't a spoiled plot point. For me it would be akin to Having Phelps be the big bad in the first Mission Impossible flick(which really kind of ruined those movies for me). It's a hard trick to pull off and you risk alienating some of the older fanboys like myself. But I guess it MIGHT make sense, especially if the tag scenes lead into the newer mythology of Ultron.
 
Rumor: Marvel Wants Johnny Depp for DOCTOR STRANGE | Collider

I love Depp...but this doesn't feel right. Depp is too BIG for the part...meaning I don't think you can forget you are watching him and buy in. Also, lets face it, Depp hasn't done the most subtle acting of his career lately and I just think he would play it too over the top. That being said...maybe Marvel is chasing Tim Burton to direct...signing his co conspirator might get that done.
 
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