The other teams thread

DoubleMinor said:
Don’t follow TB cap space but does this trade allow the Bolts to retain Stamkos?
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There's something else going on .
Tampa offered a 8-year contract with a salary of $ 3 million per year. He wants 4-5 million per season
« Tampa » offered an eight-year contract to forward Stephen Stemkos.


«Tampa» offered a hockey player a contract that reduced the amount of the contract, but it was offset by a long term of agreement: it is reported that this is an 8-year contract with a salary of $ 3 million per year.

He wants to receive a salary of $ 4 - 5 million per year.
 
symbology said:
OIlers get Jeff Skinner for 3mil, great pickup. Are you awake Rob Blake?
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They spent 3 mil on someone that is veeeery unlikely the "missing piece" to push them over the ledge...

Rob would have to pay 4-5 million for Jeff and probably for uncomfortable number of years. He'd get skinned if he did that for someone who has 0 PO experience at 32 and isn't exactly tough...
 
Bollocks said:
They spent 3 mil on someone that is veeeery unlikely the "missing piece" to push them over the ledge...

Rob would have to pay 4-5 million for Jeff and probably for uncomfortable number of years. He'd get skinned if he did that for someone who has 0 PO experience at 32 and isn't exactly tough...
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The post was not so much about getting Skinner, but getting a top 6 winger. That was a post, part of the discussion right in the middle of the UFA craziness. Also, Edmonton getting a goal scoring top 6 winger for 3-4 million does not make them worse. Arguably deeper up front. Nobody said they were expecting him to be the missing piece. That comment reminds me of the deadline where I brought up Edmonton adding depth and Blake doing nothing. A few folks said the Edmonton moves were no big deal, not the missing piece etc. Those two players helped them get one game away from the prize. Big pieces, no. Pieces none the less.

Also, our GM spent 3.8 x 4 on a 31 year old LHD that seems to be on the decline. Yeah, he crosschecks and fights. The Kings did not get pushed around in the playoffs this past year. They flat out got outplayed.
 
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symbology said:
The post was not so much about getting Skinner, but getting a top 6 winger. That was a post, part of the discussion right in the middle of the UFA craziness. Also, Edmonton getting a goal scoring top 6 winger for 3-4 million does not make them worse. Arguably deeper up front. Nobody said they were expecting him to be the missing piece. That comment reminds me of the deadline where I brought up Edmonton adding depth and Blake doing nothing. A few folks said the Edmonton moves were no big deal, not the missing piece etc. Those two players helped them get one game away from the prize. Big pieces, no. Pieces none the less.

Also, our GM spent 3.8 x 4 on a 31 year old LHD that seems to be on the decline. Yeah, he crosschecks and fights. The Kings did not get pushed around in the playoffs this past year. They flat out got outplayed.
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I remember that thread - I was one of the people who said they didn’t get “much better” with those moves. Henrique was in fact a strong depth move. Carrick didn’t move the needle, however.

Agreed that Skinner need not be the missing piece. He basically replaces Foegle. Arvy is the real depth add.
 
symbology said:
The post was not so much about getting Skinner, but getting a top 6 winger. That was a post, part of the discussion right in the middle of the UFA craziness. Also, Edmonton getting a goal scoring top 6 winger for 3-4 million does not make them worse. Arguably deeper up front. Nobody said they were expecting him to be the missing piece. That comment reminds me of the deadline where I brought up Edmonton adding depth and Blake doing nothing. A few folks said the Edmonton moves were no big deal, not the missing piece etc. Those two players helped them get one game away from the prize. Big pieces, no. Pieces none the less.

Also, our GM spent 3.8 x 4 on a 31 year old LHD that seems to be on the decline. Yeah, he crosschecks and fights. The Kings did not get pushed around in the playoffs this past year. They flat out got outplayed.
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It's not a bad signing. It's just unlikely to niticeably improve the chances of them winning the Cup.

But I moreso commented on the Blake not being awake. It's a completely different situation both from UFA atractiveness standpoint and from teambuilding standpoint.

IMO Foegele for Kings is a better signing, considering teambuilding standpoint, than Skinner for Oilers.

Edmundson...is a different story, yeah.
 
Bollocks said:
They <the Oilers> spent 3 mil on someone that is veeeery unlikely the "missing piece" to push them over the ledge...

Rob would have to pay 4-5 million for Jeff and probably for uncomfortable number of years. He'd get skinned if he did that for someone who has 0 PO experience at 32 and isn't exactly tough...
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Missing piece? If you make the Stanley Cup finals you aren't looking for a missing piece anymore... you are there. To win, luck plays a big factor with puck bounces, hot goalies, injuries, etc... The goal is to get to the finals and hope the gods shine on you in winning it. Then hope the team is intact to get there again the next season. If you just miss the playoffs or only get into the playoffs, then you are looking for a missing piece or two.
 
aragorn said:
Missing piece? If you make the Stanley Cup finals you aren't looking for a missing piece anymore... you are there. To win, luck plays a big factor with puck bounces, hot goalies, injuries, etc... The goal is to get to the finals and hope the gods shine on you in winning it. Then hope the team is intact to get there again the next season. If you just miss the playoffs or only get into the playoffs, then you are looking for a missing piece or two.
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You think Oilers are now a lock for NHL finals for the next X years? Considering their PO history and their moves so far...good luck with that.

A missing piece, yes. A player like Justin Williams...but that's impossible. Adding Arvidsson was a step in the right direction, he's a gamer...but often injured.

They should've improved defense and a different/another goalie option, since they got within 1 win in spite of Skinner. Instead they spent 3 million on a scorer, of which they have plenty already, who isn't as tough as Foegele and has no PO experience/resume.

For a team that is neglecting their prospect pool that bad and banking it all on McJesus and Drai window, they really don't do a great job of building a reliable winner. They have 2 more seasons to do something meaningful and convince McDavid not to pack his suitcase and go somewhere else. The fact they stepped so low that they hired Bowman the instant he became available means their upper management is becoming desperate.

(Yes, it's nice to harp on other teams while being a dysfunctional Kings fan, but I really don't envy the few Oilers fans that are not obnoxious a-hats...the curse seems so real.)
 
Statue4Deano said:
Brock got paid.
www.nhl.com

Minnesota Wild Signs Brock Faber to an Eight-year Contract Extension | Minnesota Wild

SAINT PAUL, Minn. \- Minnesota Wild General Manager and President of Hockey Operations Bill Guerin today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club has signed defenseman Brock Faber to an eight-year, $68 million contract extension ($8.5 million average annual value) that begins in the...
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8 years x 8.5MM
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That's quite an enormous looking second contract. They must really trust his development. Good for him!

Also, I just saw that apparently the Wild have 13 million tied in dead buyout cap space next season. Yeesh.
 
Bollocks said:
That's quite an enormous looking second contract. They must really trust his development. Good for him!

Also, I just saw that apparently the Wild have 13 million tied in dead buyout cap space next season. Yeesh.
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Kinda interesting that Drew’s 1st contract extension was 8 years $56M. $7M cap hit. 11% of the total 2011-12 salary cap.

Faber’s 8 years $68M. $8.5M cap hit. 10% of total 24-25 salary cap.
 
Statue4Deano said:
Kinda interesting that Drew’s 1st contract extension was 8 years $56M. $7M cap hit. 11% of the total 2011-12 salary cap.

Faber’s 8 years $68M. $8.5M cap hit. 10% of total 24-25 salary cap.
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Likely in the end it will turn out to be a very good deal, but I really have to wonder why they felt the need to pay him so much after just one (very good) season. This seems to be becoming the new norm in the NHL these days.
 
DryKing said:
Likely in the end it will turn out to be a very good deal, but I really have to wonder why they felt the need to pay him so much after just one (very good) season. This seems to be becoming the new norm in the NHL these days.
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NHL GMS are stupid. I don't think they understand the concept of leverage.
 
hokiecat said:
NHL GMS are stupid. I don't think they understand the concept of leverage.
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Agreed. I mean, the teams locked out the players years ago to stop themselves from spending too much money. :mhihi: (yes, I'm oversimplifying)
 
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