Trade Quick? Yep!
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True, and he's also not going to be getting a new contract after this season, not just from the Kings, but any NHL team, unless he somehow dramatically turns things around. The most graceful way for this to play out is for him to continue as the back-up, with an occasional start, (which he has handled well, at least publicly), and then announce his retirement at season's end (or near it).
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Kingscup4426
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So nobody thinks Copley can hold the position? why not? For this roster, and in lieu of some major trade for a great goaltender, Copley is the answer.
No to trading Quick. For 1, I don't think other teams would see him as an answer to the goaltending question marks. For 2, you dont move him just to move him to free up space...he is a capable back up at this point and let him finish his contract here. If after the contract is out he wants to move on, then he can do that.
Petersen is not the long term answer, that should be obvious. That is a lot of money wasted, but I can see why RB did it. At the time he was looking like the best long term solution. I think RB went with the idea of he is the youngest of the bunch, let's pay him, he will grow into the role and we will have a good #1 at a decent cap hit. Problem is, being thrust into the role it became painfully obvious CP is not the answer and now LAK are back at square 1, however Copley seems to have taken the opportunity and done well with it. He might not be lighting the world on fire, but he is stopping a lot of stoppable shots and for this Kings team, most nights that all they will need, above average goal tending. They don't need a Vezina candidate to be in net night in and night out.
The problem JQ and CP had was they were not stopping very stoppable NHL shots, Copley seems to be doing that most of the time and finds himself getting the starts because he is usually between the pipes and not sliding into the corner like the JQ and CP who are far too aggressive on the puck with the current defense and puck moving of the modern NHL.
No to trading Quick. For 1, I don't think other teams would see him as an answer to the goaltending question marks. For 2, you dont move him just to move him to free up space...he is a capable back up at this point and let him finish his contract here. If after the contract is out he wants to move on, then he can do that.
Petersen is not the long term answer, that should be obvious. That is a lot of money wasted, but I can see why RB did it. At the time he was looking like the best long term solution. I think RB went with the idea of he is the youngest of the bunch, let's pay him, he will grow into the role and we will have a good #1 at a decent cap hit. Problem is, being thrust into the role it became painfully obvious CP is not the answer and now LAK are back at square 1, however Copley seems to have taken the opportunity and done well with it. He might not be lighting the world on fire, but he is stopping a lot of stoppable shots and for this Kings team, most nights that all they will need, above average goal tending. They don't need a Vezina candidate to be in net night in and night out.
The problem JQ and CP had was they were not stopping very stoppable NHL shots, Copley seems to be doing that most of the time and finds himself getting the starts because he is usually between the pipes and not sliding into the corner like the JQ and CP who are far too aggressive on the puck with the current defense and puck moving of the modern NHL.
Bollocks
Top Forward
Remember Quick's save pct. that season and most importantly playoffs?
DryKing
Power Forward
.929/.946 (with a 1.41 GAA in the playoffs) - still to this day that is the most dominant performance I have ever seen by a goalie through 4 rounds of the playoffs. If anyone thinks we are going to get that out of any of our goalies this season, good luck...
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aragorn
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Um... both sucked! Peterson was sent down. I didn't say Peterson was the answer but unless he recovered I'd try someone else. I'm certainly not leaving Quick in if he sucks no matter how much loyalty he deserves.
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jgs
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I don't think any team will give up 2 firsts or a first and prospect for Quick. Quick is a backup at best now. Edmonton would probably do Campbell for Quick starlight across.
santiclaws
I was in the pool!!
I'd go with Patrick Roy in 93. The Kings absolutely dominated 4 out of 5 games in that Cup Final and lost 3 of them because of him. That Cup run was Roy winning it for a fairly average Montreal team.
In 2012, the Kings probably would have won the Cup with just decent goaltending, although obviously not with a 16-4 record. But they were easily the best team in the playoffs that year. They were running teams out of the building. I thought that while Quick was outstanding, Doughty should have won the Conn Smythe, he was the engine driving that team. On the other hand, Quick should have won the Hart that season; the Kings would have never made the playoffs at all if he wasn't standing on his head all season long. He wasn't even nominated.
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What party?
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John Vanbiesbrouck (.904)as a Panther in '96 would be my non-Roy choice for dominance in a cup run. [Both Roy and John are jackasses as humans but, here I am typing this baloney anyway---conflicted] He played 22 playoff games and lost 1 (Mark Fitzpatrick-who?- was the backup)check the minutes played if you're that kind of person compared to Mark, insane-o. Florida did have Jovanovski clearing the crease ( 221lbs and 137 pims) but still, the rest of the defense was (slow &)questionable at best. It was all Beezer.
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0002341996.html
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Statue4Deano
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Tim Thomas 2010-11 16-9 1.98 .940 Sv % with 4 Shutouts deserves a mention.
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A hattrick, nice Deano. He also is a jackass.
STONE
My goal is to stop yours
Totally agree!
STONE
My goal is to stop yours
Why was TT a jackass? I thought he personified hard work, grit and determination. Beezer and Roy were notorious for being super rude and arrogant.
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Statue4Deano
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He struck me more as a loon than anything else.
HTK
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G Desjardins
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Hindsight is always 20/20. If I had known that Quick's play would fall off dramatically from last season, and if I had known that some guy named Pheonix Copley would be our starter, then yeah, sure, it might be better to have traded Quick during the offseason (just don't tell me that Petersen would be playing in Ontario). But only someone with a magic crystal ball would have known that. Then again, I think everyone would have been thrilled if the Kraken had taken Quick in the expansion draft, and then there's no way the Kings make the playoffs last year.
I cannot see into the future, either. Maybe having a veteran backup like Quick will come in handy later. We all know how streaky he is. What if (heaven forbid) Copley is hurt?
Anyway, what would Quick have fetched us in a trade? Even after last year, probably not a whole lot.
I cannot see into the future, either. Maybe having a veteran backup like Quick will come in handy later. We all know how streaky he is. What if (heaven forbid) Copley is hurt?
Anyway, what would Quick have fetched us in a trade? Even after last year, probably not a whole lot.
