Turcotte and a Pick!

Out of the second group, I’d keep Foegele and Moore. Both are effective at creating chaos and give 100% each shift. Kuz puts in effort too, but his contract is up in a few months.

Turcotte and Danault are practically invisible out there. Danault especially seems to have given up. Not sure what’s going on there, but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he wants out of LA.
The only reason Turcotte is invisible out there is that he...is rarely ever on the ice. When he is on the ice he is been consistently pretty visible.

I don't get the sentiment of trading Turcotte - his potential is too high and value too low to trade. Kings would be well served to give him ice time and set him up for a Stoll-like role in the future.
 
The only reason Turcotte is invisible out there is that he...is rarely ever on the ice. When he is on the ice he is been consistently pretty visible.

I don't get the sentiment of trading Turcotte - his potential is too high and value too low to trade. Kings would be well served to give him ice time and set him up for a Stoll-like role in the future.
I just watched him have open ice in a foot race against a tired player, go full out, and lose the foot race.

It’s really time for Holland to cut bait.
 
I just watched him have open ice in a foot race against a tired player, go full out, and lose the foot race.

It’s really time for Holland to cut bait.

Are you sure Turcotte was fresh on the ice? Anyway, this Ducks team is quicker / faster than than the Kings.

He may have lost a foot race this last game, but more times than not he seems to do just fine.

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Watched him get pushed around all night, and then he took a dumb penalty.

He tries to initiate contact like Fiala, and then loses horribly. When get goes into the corners or behind the net, every defenseman out there just pins him easily, and he can’t fight his way out of it.

Rather see Big Sami in the lineup for 5 minutes a night.
 
Watched him get pushed around all night, and then he took a dumb penalty.

He tries to initiate contact like Fiala, and then loses horribly. When get goes into the corners or behind the net, every defenseman out there just pins him easily, and he can’t fight his way out of it.

Rather see Big Sami in the lineup for 5 minutes a night.
I'd like to see Sami get more games in too - especially against the more physical teams. That said, Turcotte is a completely different player and more effective against the faster teams like the Ducks.

Say what you will, but the three players able to get under the other team's skin are Perry, Clarke and Turcotte. Having players like that on the roster plays dividends, especially come playoff time, but you could argue that having three may not be needed.

All said, though, we really shouldn't be debating which one (Turcotte or Helenius) should be in the lineup, but rather how to get them both into the lineup. Unfortunately the road is temporarily blocked based on the off-season FA signings of Perry and Kuz.
 
I don’t really think the debate should be about Turcotte or Helenius. I would scratch Danault a couple games, and let Turcotte play with better line mates instead, and let Sami run amuck with malott
 

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