Who will next year's goalie be ?

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Much like when Lombardi waited over a MONTH to sign Willie Mitchell there’s a LOT of goalies on the market but no teams to play for!!!

Blake is gonna get a pissed off goalie for 1 million dollars and they’ll have something to prove

- Anderson
- Raanta
- Varlamov
- Talbot (my choice)
- Jarry
- Brossoit
- Hill
- Halak
- Lyon
I see no harm in starting the season the same way the Kings finished last season. Switching out Copley with any of these ‘tenders on a rotating, game-to-game schedule might just be the answer. I foresee a league-wide trend whereby all NHL teams throw out the old-school philosophy of a bonafide #1 and a “capable“ backup at #2. A 1/1A worked out well for the Kings for the 2nd half of last season. It was disappointing that coach McLennan didn’t stick with the system for the playoffs. It may have kept the Oilers off balance just enough. Who knows….
 


I don’t mind it. Goaltending is turning into the equivalent of the bullpen in MLB. If you don’t have the elite of the elite you’re probably better off bringing in a reclamation project because they’re affordable and year to year variance can burn you (see: Cal Petersen).
 
This team is a few seasons away from competing, so no urgency for a goalie, at this point. Patience please, they are way ahead of schedule.
 
This team is a few seasons away from competing, so no urgency for a goalie, at this point. Patience please, they are way ahead of schedule.
I don’t agree we are a few years away. In a few years Kopi is done and Drew is washed up and overpaid. The core is also 30+ at that point. We need to win now and next year or the window may close. What am I missing?
 
Should we not be asking for Kopi and Doughty to participate in this drive to secure a goaltender and help us to the promise land? Lets be real, Doughty is no where near an 11 million dollar a year player anymore, Kopi on the other hand at 10 mill is much closer, but we could make that up in his next extension, when the Cap grows. I would believe he has a least 2 years left in the tank. When I see what the devils paid out for Meier, we got a bargain with Dubois. We cannot go into the season with any of the free agents on the board if we plan to make a move up this year. Yes Copley did save last season, but we have to be real and at best he is a decent backup at this stage of his career. A Connor Hallebuyck (30) and Carter Hart (24) has got to be what Blake must look at. If we are talking future, Hart is the obvious choice being just 24 years old and the younger of the 2.

We did not do well in the draft as far as goaltending goes, I understand the top 2 were gone at 54, but maybe a move up was a possibility or not giving away that Montreal pick and including ours instead. Not bashing the Dvorak move, but goal should have been a priority. Maybe there is a young goaltender that still has not met expectations out there in the AHL, that we can take a chance on.

Still time to do things out there, obviously a very very hard task with the cap where it is at. Let's get something done..........

I wouldn't trade up to draft a goalie. It's too much of a gamble.

Look at the goalies drafted since Lombardi era:
Quick 72nd, Bernier 11th, Rowat 124th, Berube 95th, Gibson 49th, Bartosak 146th, Dillon 150th, Villalta 72nd, Hrenak 144th, Ingham 175th, Parik 87th, Markkanen 112nd...

Only two panned out at NHL level and the 72nd overall far outperformed the 11th overall. What does this tell you? It's a huge gamble. I wouldn't worry about drafting goalies too much, if there's one the scouts like I'm all for drafting one every second year, but that's it. Trading up would be a waste of assets unless it's like trading up from #7 to #5 to draft a very talented one since the #5 owner don't want to draft a goalie so it probably wouldn't cost that much. You get what I mean. Decent backups are relatively easy to find and cheap, so if you're shooting for stars in the post #10 overall to find yourself the next Quick...good f***** luck lol.

Besides, drafting by need (goalie) THIS year because we don't have goalie situation sorted would be foolish, because whoever we drafted won't be ready till at least 2025-26, at which point Rob will probably find a long term #1 solution due to cap increase and Kopi's contract expiring.



I don’t mind it. Goaltending is turning into the equivalent of the bullpen in MLB. If you don’t have the elite of the elite you’re probably better off bringing in a reclamation project because they’re affordable and year to year variance can burn you (see: Cal Petersen).


Exactly. Go big or go home. And even that isn't a recipe for success - Hellebuyck, Ullmark, Vasilevsky...who are by all means elite...s*** the bed in playoffs this season. It's a crapsh***.

I don’t agree we are a few years away. In a few years Kopi is done and Drew is washed up and overpaid. The core is also 30+ at that point. We need to win now and next year or the window may close. What am I missing?

Agreed. It's just that it's not worth it to bend over backwards this season to acquire a goalie in the 5-6 million range that is very likely to prove entirely mediocre come playoff time.

Never said he was next coming of Hasek nor do i think he is,I just don't think he gets enough credit for how well he played

I think he gets enough credit here. He was basically unanimously praised as our "savior" for posting a sub-par (by all standards) .903 sv. %. But he wasn't praised due to his performance in absolute sense, but because the other two (the experienced ex-elite goalie and a fragile wonder boy who got paid way too much) s*** the bed royally. And that's something we need to keep in mind, and Rob definitely keeps in mind. It was a very good performance relative to the other 2 goalies. So if the Kings want a step forward, they will probably need a better goalie, but because this season they can't afford one, they should just gamble on another cheap UFA and call it a day. It will most likely be better than last season.

If you mean the fact that he didn't start in the playoffs...well, that was something Korpi was brought in to do and it was a correct decision, all things considered, except for maybe game 6 where starting Copley to shake things up and maybe throw the EDM shooters off their mojo a bit would be a smart decision. Hopefully TMac learned from this.
 
Does anyone know who our EBUG is? Right now we have just Copley. Portillo's going to play for Ontario. Villalta, Hrenak, & Ingham are RFA's so maybe they'll be resigned but IDK if they're in the Kings plans. And yes, I'd like to get a goalie for $1 million. But do we even have the cap space for that? We still have to move salary to get someone.

Maybe goalies aren't worth $10 million. But for a good starter you need to pay between $4-6 million. If they go the low cost route then they'll probably go with a rotation with Copley & whoever, like they did with him & Korpisalo. If they do that & it works well enough to get into the playoffs then they need to keep with the rotation during the playoffs. That was a mistake moving away from what was working. If we had someone like a 2012 Quick that would be different.
 
I don’t agree we are a few years away. In a few years Kopi is done and Drew is washed up and overpaid. The core is also 30+ at that point. We need to win now and next year or the window may close. What am I missing?
They are not a Stanley Cup team, yes a playoff team but not a Stanley Cup team, they need more, as in defense and a couple more role players that can pound an opposing teams defense. That will take a couple of seasons. I wouldn't say that Vegas has the best defense in the game, however they are good. They had some great role players that were big and strong that beat down the opposing teams defense. That's what the Kings need. they will get there but not this coming season or next.
 
Joey Daccord might be a good fit for the money we have left. He's young at 26 and is only going to get better. He doesn't have a ton of NHL experience but did make a deep run in the AHL playoffs this year and stole quite a few games. He's got decent size and is poised to make a jump to the next level in my opinion.
 
Unless you're saying he was hurt or something (don't think you are) then I would say yes - he was exposed. The Oilers found where to shoot from and how to do it and never looked back. His career playoff stats are remarkable but they're only 15 games. It's not uncommon for goalies to have strong stats in a small sample size. In a series where he had everything to prove, especially as he was about to become a UFA, he started extremely strong and then was a key reason we lost. Nothing against the guy, he's always been a decent goalie. Didn't like the whole Quick debacle, but did think it was a gutsy move and he seemed like the right guy to me too BUT... when you give the guy the chance in the exact situation you are going to need a great goalie for and he just folds - why would you ever want him back?
 
Think Lehner will be good to go next season? Not like we can afford him unless Vegas is generous.
 
Blackwood is now a available not offered a contract by the Sharks. He would be a good bridge goalie for the right price.

 
The Mayor just edited his goalie article down to three names so he clearly had a little birdy tell him it’s likely down to Blackwood, Talbot, or Halak.

As far as cap space goes, it makes some sense. The latter two have had full careers and are looking for a last hurrah with a chance to win, while Blackwood probably needs to seek a job to try to rebuild his value. The Kings probably have the best job opening available for a younger UFA in search of a chance to be featured, and it’s also not a bad spot for an aging netminder in search of a defense to support him.

Back in his prime, Talbot in particular had a good run with McClellan, so there may be some warm feelings there.

Also, note that The Mayor had and left a picture of Halak at the top of his article. Probably not random.
 
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The Mayor just edited his goalie article down to three names so he clearly had a little birdy tell him it’s likely down to Blackwood, Talbot, or Halak.

As far as cap space goes, it makes some sense. The latter two have had full careers and are looking for a last hurrah with a chance to win, while Blackwood probably needs to seek a job to try to rebuild his value. The Kings probably have the best job opening available for a younger UFA in search of a chance to be featured, and it’s also not a bad spot for an aging netminder in search of a defense to support him.

Back in his prime, Talbot in particular had a good run with McClellan, so there may be some warm feelings there.

Also, note that The Mayor had and left a picture of Halak at the top of his article. Probably not random.
Those are some pretty rough names as all had below average seasons last year (Halak having the best of the three). Halak and Talbot are both north of 35 years so, I guess out of the three Blackwood would be my lean as at least he is young and works hard.

Kinda feels like with either Talbot or Halak we are stepping back into another Quick situation (goalie that is past their prime with playoff experience). Also surprised we could afford Talbot given his camp has seemed pretty money driven in the past., and it's hard to believe he would accept being a backup (if outplayed by Copley).
 
Friedman speculating that it could be Talbot.

Also speculating about a Trevor Lewis return (!).

With goalies over 35 you can do performance bonuses that would go against next year's cap if there ends up being no cap space left this year. That's what they did with Edler, although his $750,000 performance bonus counted against last season's cap since we ended with some cap space left. So we could sign one of these 35+ guys for league minimum and performance bonuses and the cap hit for the coming season would be $775k.
 
Friedman speculating that it could be Talbot.

Also speculating about a Trevor Lewis return (!).
Hoven tweeted that “Elvis has returned to the building.” He used to call Lewis “Elvis.” Could save 500-700K if Blake signs him for 1-1.2M and ships out Lizotte. Don’t see how it works/makes sense otherwise. Grundy only makes 1.3.
 
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