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Yep...pretty much says F' you to Walking Dead limping towards a good final 20 minutes. I love Sons, and Archer, and Hell on Wheels, Ripper Street, etc......but if you want to track a show that has simply gone from strength to strength and developed characters, backstories, mythology all fleshed out with just some of the most Fred Astaire/Gene Kelly graceful dialogue mixed with tough guy brilliance, JUSTIFIED really has no equal. I do realize that the Boyd/Raylen dynamic is going to have to have a winner and a loser but I just hope that it comes at the close of their run. Even if that is next season. One cannot exist without the other. Boyd is Raylen's Joker...yes folks it IS that good.

And Adgy, although Patton was typecast(again!!!! and we have had that conversation) I really think they managed to finally use him to his strengths while flipping the script at the same time. So yeah, agree with you wholeheartedly. How in the HELL they managed to


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end that episode without a casualty(besides Yolo) is beyond the **** out of me. But there is going to be a serious culling before the next 2 finish playing out. Read on a site earlier that there is speculation


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that Drew is Raylen's real daddy, with the conversation in the car about Raylen's mom's 'proclivities' and Arlo having to defend her,when Drew and the other ex sherriff(who killed Arlo) were talking, presented as evidence. The only good thing about that is that Jim Beaver would prolly stay on the cast in some facility...which would be great. But who knows. I honestly watch this show with no idea where they are gonna right turn it. LOVE LOVE LOVE Justified.
 
Couldn't agree more. About Patton, too.

With regards to comparing it to The Walking Dead... it's amazing to me how the great little moments of character development that we see in The Walking Dead, like with Tyrese last episode, frequently do little to push the plot forward. Ok, now we know Tyrese is suspicious of the Governor and is eventually going to leave Woodbury for the prison group. I mean, we knew that because of the comics, but if you haven't read the comics, you didn't know. At least until the last episode. But it hasn't happened yet and who knows when it will?

And those moments are great, but like I said, they do almost nothing to push the plot forward. When they do do something, it's almost always incremental.

On Justified, though, that is never the case. We got to see some great **** with Tim and Colt, for example, this season. Great moments that give us insight into the character. And it ALWAYS works to advance the plot. Tim meets his buddy at rehab, and we learn he's got a soft spot for ****ed up veterans, but at the same time he runs into Colt who we're learning is an addict and who is there for something completely plot related!

It's just night and ****ing day between the two of them.
 
Yeah...I really don't want Colt to go. That showdown could use a little more brewin' time. Always have liked Eldard. The, 'I'd want a young Depardieu to play me' line was hella funny and spot on too. Johnny, man...love cousin Johnny...but his position has been sorely comprimised too.

Forgot to mention last week, that Nick Searcy's rant about Drew being 'a hell of a man' was hilarious.
 
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You mean Mike O'Malley(Nicky Augustine) right? And yeah, they have had a concentrated effort to make characters out of the supporting cast this season. The phone call between Colt and Deputy Tim was just another great example of the terrific tough guy banter that this show excels at. I know someone who couldn't get into s1 and didn't stick with it...and I cannot get her to buy in no matter how much I plead. Her loss.
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I done got my older bald white guys who have been in awful sitcoms confuzzled!

I don't know if there ever was an episode of Justified I did not love. I wonder if Timothy Olyphant almost made the mistake of not taking the part because he had already played a western lawman for several years on a television show.
 
JD, do you know how many more seasons Justified is signed up for?

Because after yesterday's episode and the previews for the season finale, I'm wondering... you think the bad guys maybe kill Winona/The baby and next season is all out war? Maybe against or with Boyd (I'm going for with, given the change of heart Eva had)?

I keep thinking that there's no way they'd do that, but this show surprises me a lot, so...
 
Somewhere amongst these pages should be an article where (I think Graham Yost, but it may have been John Landegraf) basically said they are sketched in for 2 more seasons ideally in order to tell the story they want. It didn't seem as hard and fast as that though. But yeah, I think anything longer than that and you risk the quality. Justified started as a series of one episode stories and slowly built into season long storylines and now it just seems like one entire cohesive story that has a very clear finishing point. Cannot say enough nice things about this show. By the way...F U emmys.
But yeah, Fx previews are clearly to be taken with a grain of salt. They are masterful at misdirection. If you saw the teaser fro last weeks Americans, and then saw the episode...sooooooo tricksy! Shame on you Fx. Awwww...I love you too much to stay mad.
 
[TV] FX Promises Halloween Event For "American Horror Story: Coven" -Bloody Disgusting


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So, Justified, albeit a bit of a filler episode, was pretty damned good. The 'I am gonna need google translate if I am going to keep talking to you', line of the night. What was a little sketchy was how Eva got away when Deputy Tim ended poor Colt...damnit Colt you shoulda quit tomorrow. The marshalls seem to have no idea the information ElleMay is holding, and was Boyd really going to deal her to Nicky knowing that she holds Eva's freedom in her hands. THAT is not going to end well and I truly think that will be the fuse that lights the fire that will burn either Boyd or Raylen to the ground. Nicky is REALLY cocky for someone who just keeps ****ing up. There has to be some desperation building there, and according to the preview...the payoff seems to be coming. Will they kill Winona and the baby???? I honestly do not know. Gonna be must watch live tv...not something that happens often.
 
FX Renews JUSTIFIED, THE LEAGUE, and More; Orders FARGO to Series; Announces New FXX Network | Collider

ooooh lots of news here

FX orders a 10-episode limited series of Fargo.
FX orders comedy pilots How and Why from Charlie Kaufman, and Chozen from Grant Dekernion, Danny McBride and the team behind Eastbound & Down.
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First of all, FX is becoming a triumvirate, with the launch of FXX (which disappointingly is not an edgy all-female channel) which will be aimed at ?young adult viewers,? ages 18-34 and will include more comedy programming and movies. FXM continues to go for a slightly more mature audience with programming geared towards the 25-54 age bracket. The original FX will continue to run the gambit, with programming styled towards the 18-49 group that will start to include more miniseries and limited series.

Here?s what that actually means: Justified will remain on FX, while It?s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The League and Legit will all move to FXX. Additionally, Totally Biased with W. Kamau Bell will now becoming regular late night show, airing five nights a week this fall on FXX.
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Additionally, FX will also develop their own app that will act like HBOGo, allowing cable subscribers to watch their content anywhere. There will be plenty of content to watch ? in addition to more drama series, all of the old favorites are back as well: Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story, Louie, Archer, Wilfred and The Americans.
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BTW...those teasers for The Bridge...I'm already hooked!
 
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I worry that 3 is stretching a bit. I wish they would have gone for a strong 2 and then rethunk a 3rd at a later time. But, good shows is good shows and I will watch wherever they put them. Hopefully they will get less stingy with re-airs of weekly episodes. POTENTIAL HAZARD of course, is cable/satellite providers messing with subscribers/Fx by doing the "tier" shuffle.
 
FX Teams With Stephen Gaghan For Limited Series About The Vietnam War - Deadline.com

They Marched Into Sunlight is part of FX’s major push into event series. The cable network just greenlighted its first limited series, an adaptation of Joel and Ethan Coen’s 1996 feature Fargo. Additionally, FX last week announced several other high-profile limited/miniseries projects in development as the genre is poised to become a cornerstone for FX’s sibling FXM (Fox Movie Channel): Grand Hotel from Sam Mendes, about a fictional terrorist plot in Paris; Sutton, from Alexander Payne and Michael De Luca, about the infamous bank robber; Mad Dogs, from The Shield‘s Shawn Ryan, based on the British black comedy/psychological thriller miniseries; and Mayflower, from producers Paul Giamatti and Gil Netter (Life Of Pi).
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FX Developing Limited Series About The Fall Of The Inca Empire - Deadline.com

FX is adding another project to its growing slate of event limited series. The cable network is developing Conquistadors, an adaptation of the Kim MacQuarrie book Last Day Of The Incas. Written by producer Nicholas Osborne in his writing debut, Conquistadors tells the story of Francisco Pizarro and Diego de Almagro, two Spanish Conquistadors who above all odds conquered the Incan empire of 10 million with just 168 men, and Manco Inca and Cura Occlo, two teenage Incan royal lovers, who led one of the greatest rebellions in history. Osborne is executive producing with Scott Rosenbaum, who serves as showrunner, and Underground Films’ Trevor Engelson.
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JUSTIFIED Season 4 Finale Recap: “Ghosts” | Collider

Solid season closer...like they mention in the article, last weeks episode felt like more of a finale with this being a postscript. Still...verrrrry satisfying. Poor doomed Ava and Boyd. I think we all knew that HAD to happen. Now, Boyd has all that he ever wanted as far as his criminal empire...but at what a cost. And Raylen, saved and most likely lost his family in one fell swoop. The ride to Nicky between Boyd and Raylen was the show in a nutshell. And really the prelim to the inevitable showdown that HAS to happen. Rough seeing Boyd on the losing end, but you KNOW the wheels are already turning on that score. Glad that Jere Burns and his ape are still standing. He's a vital character. And where is cousin Johnny? That has to factor in. Not the high body count I was expecting, but that's ok. Still Goodbye to Jim Beaver(probably, unless he is revealed as Raylen's real father) and Ron Eldard. Limehouse is still hanging in, so hopefully we will see the new, born again bbq master further down the line. So, note to Walking Dead, critical storylines resolved...check. Just enough dramatic exits of strong characters...check. The overal vision of the show clearly moving forward...check and double check. So get your **** together and TRY to be half as good as this show is.
 
Pretty much agree all over. It definitely felt less like a season finale and more like an epilogue, but was immensely satisfying.

Surprised the hell out of me all over. Loved the way Raylan got rid of Nicky. Goddamn, I wish I was that clever.

Gonna miss this show like crazy.
 
Justified producer Graham Yost looks back on the mysteries of season 4

Great post mortem w/Johnny/constable Bob and other news, but here is the answer to that question you asked Adgy

You say it's getting harder and harder. If you had your druthers, how much longer would the show run?

Graham Yost: Druthers, really, six years. Two more seasons. It's difficult. Tim and I will both say that it's the best job we've ever had in many respects. And Tim would say he'd happily play Raylan for the rest of his life, but then it's finding the stories that really intrigue us. And in terms of this world, a big part is the Raylan and Boyd relationship. How many more moves do we have of that? That almost becomes a bigger concern. And just the Kentucky of it. if we were to move the show outside of Kentucky, it would be a very different show that we couldn't put under the "Justified" banner anymore. "Justified" is Kentucky.

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I know you and I are constantly harping about this show vs Walking Dead, but this quote from that interview stood out to me.

Was the plan always to reveal Drew's identity when you did, or was that also something that changed?

Graham Yost: That we knew fairly early on. We just knew that it would wear thin if we tried to string it out to the end of the season. The fear was that the air would go out of the balloon once we did it. But it was my feeling, and the room backed me on it, was there was enough to do after.
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I'd say that maybe after Justified is over, Graham Yost can get hired on by AMC to show them how to run a show, but, well... I think I'd like him to continue working with Fx.
 
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