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I was hoping he would have been traded last summer instead of Kupari.Would be alright by me if Blake explored alternatives to Kaliyev also.
I was hoping he would have been traded last summer instead of Kupari.Would be alright by me if Blake explored alternatives to Kaliyev also.
It is an interesting question, and I actually edited my comment right away because I didn’t want to be overly dismissive. It’s valid to look at the Kings’ record against better teams so far this season and want more. I really don’t need to come in and tell people that’s not a concern.Its an interesting question when you've got everyone jumping on the bandwagon, what have you done for me lately matters when more people are noticing. So did this matter more? or does the fact that the season series was edged by them 3 points to 4 have meaning? One point in December matters just as much as in April, or does it? Fans paying means they matter to the bottom line just as much even if they aren't die hards. Realistically it was an emotional game that matters a lot right now but I'm already getting my Edmonton angst on myself.
Saturday is setting up to be a major disappointment. Kings are Konging at home, EDM is hot right now. Could be ugly. Hope the boys get up for this one.Saturday’s game against Edmonton isn’t a must win but it’s damn near close if only for the mental aspect of the game within the game.
Bottom line is the Kings best players need to be their best players. That did not happen last night.
I'm a big Kupari fan, but I think kaliyev is going to have a fine NHL career.I was hoping he would have been traded last summer instead of Kupari.
I haven't seen the toughness in board battles, the hockey smarts nor the skating ability in Kaliyev's game. Martin Frk had a big shot too...I'm a big Kupari fan, but I think kaliyev is going to have a fine NHL career.
It's not the numbers... it's the eye test. He just isn't as skilled at playing the Kings game as the other forwards on the team. When was the last time he won a 50/50 puck? Is he effective at cycling? Does he have the ability to create open ice for himself to get his shot off via his skating? I don't see it...Before we cut bait on a 22 year old offensive winger I'd suggest exploring his draft class and look at how productive he's been compared to his peers. Kaliyev is right on schedule. He's the 11th highest scoring player from the 2019 draft. To this point in his career he scores goals about the same rate as Kaapo Kakko, Nils Hoglander, Alex Newhook and Kirby Dach.
Maybe we should hold onto a kid who's just barely scratching the surface of his talent and see if he can develop other skills.
Miles ahead of anything Frk was. He's got too much hockey intelligence not to last a long time, and his game is already 100 times better than when he first broke in. He's starting to get some 5 on 5 offensive confidence with PLD, I trust this staff to keep him reminded of the defensive side of things.I haven't seen the toughness in board battles, the hockey smarts nor the skating ability in Kaliyev's game. Martin Frk had a big shot too...
My eyes see a very young man still trying to get his legs under himself in the NHL. Kaliyev is the same age as Laferriere and his overall game is more complete. He’s shown tremendous growth from his rookie season and he remains a work in progress. Productivity from cheap, cost-controlled players is essential to filling out the roster.It's not the numbers... it's the eye test. He just isn't as skilled at playing the Kings game as the other forwards on the team. When was the last time he won a 50/50 puck? Is he effective at cycling? Does he have the ability to create open ice for himself to get his shot off via his skating? I don't see it...
To my eyes, every line he has played on has experienced a drop off in effectiveness. He doesn’t seem to fit anywhere in the bottom 6. But there won’t be room on the top 6 for him for years to come.My eyes see a very young man still trying to get his legs under himself in the NHL. Kaliyev is the same age as Laferriere and his overall game is more complete. He’s shown tremendous growth from his rookie season and he remains a work in progress. Productivity from cheap, cost-controlled players is essential to filling out the roster.
Yes he does have a lot of work to do to be a dependable winger but that’s the normal progression of later 1st rounders/early 2nd rounders. He’s following in the path of Tyler Toffoli and Tanner Pearson.
In recent games against true contending teams, the Kings have shown us they aren’t quite as good as their record seems to indicate. There will need to be further improvement if the Kings are going to get out of the first round. I look at the roster and I see Kaliyev as the weakest link. Others will argue it’s Laffy. But I see #78 as a better longterm bet to succeed as a NHL player than Kaliyev.Miles ahead of anything Frk was. He's got too much hockey intelligence not to last a long time, and his game is already 100 times better than when he first broke in. He's starting to get some 5 on 5 offensive confidence with PLD, I trust this staff to keep him reminded of the defensive side of things.
It's not the numbers... it's the eye test. He just isn't as skilled at playing the Kings game as the other forwards on the team. When was the last time he won a 50/50 puck? Is he effective at cycling? Does he have the ability to create open ice for himself to get his shot off via his skating? I don't see it...
For my eye test Laf is a better skater, much quicker, better stick handler, and better along the boards. He’s not afraid to throw a check either. Kaliyev has played over 100 NHL games and has 6 goals so far to Laf’s 5. And Laf doesn’t get any PP time.My eyes see a very young man still trying to get his legs under himself in the NHL. Kaliyev is the same age as Laferriere and his overall game is more complete. He’s shown tremendous growth from his rookie season and he remains a work in progress. Productivity from cheap, cost-controlled players is essential to filling out the roster.
Yes he does have a lot of work to do to be a dependable winger but that’s the normal progression of later 1st rounders/early 2nd rounders. He’s following in the path of Tyler Toffoli and Tanner Pearson.
If Kaliyev could ever win a board battle or a 50/50 puck, then PLD and Laf would be better off.Re: Kaliyev
OK, he's not playing up to some peoples expectations, but so is PLD. PLD on paper is the better player and has more experience. So why isn't he raising his line mates games? When I play with better players I always play a better game.